Talk:Olympia, Washington

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Update[edit]

I have moved the historical and unmarked convos on this page to the section now titled "historical content". Now I'm going to create History of Olympia, Washington. - Freechild 22:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I also created the Template:Olympia to spur further development of articles about Olympia and to make it easier to find information about Olympia on WP. - Freechild 23:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
             -hey, the info in the pop culture references is incorrect. the old olympia brewery didn't utilize the deschutes river water, they tapped into the artesian wells in the area. "it's the water" is their slogan.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.137.67 (talk) 01:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC) 

Interested how others view the best way of making reference to things in the three cities of Olympia, Lacey, and Tumwater. Not to mention Thurston County. Each has a distinct civic entity and political dimension, while the borders meander and shared realities overlap.

An editor recently removed long-standing references to art activities- and maybe other things- happening in Lacey because they were "not in Olympia..." While this is technically correct in one sense, I think it is misleading in another. A request with explanation to restore the deleted references was declined.

For anyone unfamiliar with the Olympia area but interested in visiting for whatever reason, I think it makes sense to identify things in the tri-city (and nearby county) area (Isn't Evergreen State College in the County?) under the Olympia heading, because that is what prospective visitors would look for. If I wanted to learn what was around Olympia when planning a visit from Holland or New York City, I wouldn't be searching for Lacey or Thurston County, but would want to know what was there. 67.168.82.196 (talk) 06:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

i have removed Olympia's outdated year 2000 population information, and updated Olympia's demographic information to reflect current census data.

Map inconsistancy?[edit]

The red dot representing Olympia on the map seems to misrepresent the cities position. Also Thurston county appears too short. If you notice the color picture shows a section of harbor, the red dot on the .png is a bit of a jog away from the water front.

Map is off[edit]

The red dot representing Olympia should be at the base of the Puget Sound--not inland as represented by the red dot.

Olympia is in the right place, it is Puget Sound that is not drawn correctly. Puget Sound should extend through Pierce County to Olympia. Image:County map of Washington state.png has the Sound appropriately drawn. Can someone who knows how to fix that please do so? -- Jonel | Speak 04:07, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
I second what Jonel said; the maps don't always show the intricate details of some water boundaries and inland bodies of water. Olympia, Washington is most certainly near the northernmost point of Thurston County, Washington. For the record, I was the one who made the map in question (well, placed the dot ;) ). I am from western Washington and was born in Olympia, so I do know where it is located. Bumm13 02:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
After taking a second look at the map, the dot is indeed in the wrong spot; it needs to be a bit further south. I would delete it and make a new one right away, but I'm currently away from my main home computer. Image:WAMap-doton-Lacey.png will also need to be similarly fixed.
The 'wrong' map is similar to Image:Washington-counties-map.gif. I think these dot-maps are primarily to show the official political boundaries of the counties—both land and water included. Water within county boundaries is apparently not reflected on these maps. — Jeff | (talk) | 08:32, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Is this better?

Is the map to the right more accurate? If so, I can easily make a blank version with a dot. (If so, please leave a note at my talk page, as I won't be watching this page.) dbenbenn | talk 07:16, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

This is a map of the county. Only the city of Olympia should be in red. 24.215.253.143 00:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

blank map[edit]

why is the map on this page blank? --Lukobe 00:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC) because your computer is screwed up

intro reads like an advertisement[edit]

"...(Olympia) serves as a regional center for shopping, culture and entertainment. Highlights of a visit to Olympia can include a stop at the Temple of Justice to watch a state Supreme Court hearing, a run around Capitol Lake, or a stop at one of many small boutiques, coffee shops, and bakeries located in the downtown area..."

No matter how you slice it, this feels copied from a tourist catalog. I'm marking it as such but not making any other changes since I'm not sure how to rewrite it. Kennard2 01:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Fictional References issue[edit]

This section is very poorly written. It should either be cleaned up or removed.

Depression-era town with government buildings sketchily described. The yarn ends violently on the extreme tip of Olympic Peninsula, in prohibition time, a smugglers' nest, the fictional Westport.

Historical content[edit]

The current OSPI building is the old state capitol. Yes, it was once the county courthouse too, however that is less significant than being the state capitol building. Also, the old courthouse on Capitol Way is refered to as the old courthouse, so calling the old state capitol building or the OSPI building the old courthouse adds confusion. Sundodger (talk) 17:44, 30 April 2008 (UTC)Sundodger

"hi my name is..... i dont know!!! HAHAHAHA! :)---- Does anybody know about the term "OlyWA" ??? Is that like local shorthand for the name of the town (For example, I live in Bellingham, and we commonly refer to it as simply 'the ham,' and I understand that people from Vancouver Wash call it 'the couve'). I could have sworn I heard them say on KUOW today "94.9 FM in Seattle, AM 1340 in Olywa." If Olywa is the local nickname for Olympia, I think that's awesome. If anybody knows for sure, how about adding a section to the article about the local nickname being OLYWA if that's true. Cheers. -- A Hamster

Meaning no disrespect to the memory of Rachel Corrie in the slightest, is it really appropriate to give her a mention here? Countless important Americans have some connection to Olympia: need we list them all? Jwrosenzweig 18:43, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Now that you mention in, why not make a list!

Sure, why not? There's a list for Portland, Ore. Added to it myself.

If the discussion page is not the place to express oppinions then were can you do it? The article on olympia is one sided. It pictures the citizens of olympia in a negitive light. I went to the evergreen state college, i knew and graduated from high school with rachel corrie and find her actions to be embarising to my city. Yet, someone can emply that olympia is full of jack booted faciest thugs and its not a problem for you. Thurston county had the highest level of support for christine gregiour of any county.(higher as a percentage than king county). I am not a faciest, i voted for kerry. I am liberal. i feel that corrie was misguided and that having her as one of only three items of information about my city is horribul. But hey, who wants to hear both sides of a story?

I don't see how that's implied at all. I went to Evergreen myself, and the depiction of the city here is pretty much as I remember it: equal parts capital city, blue-collar lumber town, and mecca for smelly hippies (heh). That conservative Olympians didn't like the college when it opened is hardly in dispute, is it?
If you feel Rachel Corrie gets too much emphasis because the section on Olympia's history is only three paragraphs long, the answer is to "dilute" her paragraph by adding to the section. Olympia has a long and interesting history that deserves a much more in-depth treatment than it's currently getting; feel free to add as much information as you can discover. But don't try to eradicate any mention of Corrie at all, even if you do feel her actions put Olympia in a "bad light." --Paul 21:43, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
It seems to me that a Notable Olympians list would be a fine idea; not only is there one for Portland OR there's even one for Silverton OR, a place much smaller and less historic than Olympia. (I went to Evergreen, too.) I don't have the historical knowledge to write it myself, but someone does. Wyvern 21:39, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"In 1971, The Evergreen State College was sited there, much to the dismay of some of the town's conservative residents."

Okay, that sentence just tickles me pink, but is it really necessary? I don't know anything about Olympia, but unless there were huge protests against the college or anything, that second clause seems unnecessarily provocative to the right.

Evergreen was founded by Dan Evans a Republican Govenor. It was not opposed by the conservitave town's folk at the time.

Where is the proof for this: "Many newer shops and businesses...in Olympia's downtown core were created by "greeners" (i.e., students of The Evergreen State College...)" Should that be "created for", because I find it hard to believe that a bunch of teenage undergrads run conventional businesses. Even then it a stretch to assume that "many" businesses downtown are focused on Evergreen students. It is typical, but incorrect, for Evergreen students to think that Olympia revolves around them.

"Greener" refers to ulumni as well as current students. I agree that many of the newer shops were created by greeners, but not enough to be a majority or important enough to mention.

I feel there should be some mention of the Arts Walk in the arts section. It mentions the procession of the species but not the Arts Walk. It seems to be one of the most important and popular events in Olympia and its suprising that is not mentioned. I would add it but Evergreen has been banned from editing on wikipedia, probably for good reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.211.25.9 (talk) 01:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


Placing the city's infobox[edit]

Could/should the Olympia infobox also be included on History of Olympia, Washington? Guidance is appreciated. - Freechild 04:58, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

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