Talk:Operation Crossroads

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Inaccuracy re: use of 'demon core'[edit]

A recent article by Alex Wellerstein (who as far as I know is a well regarded nuclear historian) claims that the demon core was not used in Operation Crossroads: it had been scheduled to be used, but was still too radioactive by the time of the test and was later melted and used in a new bomb. Since there are cited claims to the contrary already in the article, it would be great if someone with the requisite knowledge in the field could look into this further and make the correction if necessary.

--Doncurzio (talk) 18:00, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Bruce Conner's Crossroads film[edit]

Artist Bruce Conner assembled a film from the Croosroads military footage in the mid-60s. An excerpt is available here. It's quite remarkable:

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/07/15/creepy-world-of-bruce-conner/

--Pete Tillman (talk) 17:52, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Just watched it. Two points: All the films from Crossroads, indeed almost all nuclear footage, was silent. In the 50s and early 60s, there was no convenient, portable means of recording sound without a large roomful of gear (optical track sound), until the commercial portable tape recorder became available. All the sounds were dubbed in by Lookout Mountain, a section of the Air Force that processed all the film into top secret movies. So despite Connor's statement that it is all "true", the sound was dubbed for his movie as well, and turns out to be totally misleading in its ferocity. I don't think he even used LM's dubs, he re-invented his own.
The second concerns the guy who wrote the article about the film: He calls the phenomenon a mushroom cloud, but it was no such thing. It was a fountain of water that proved itself such by rising no higher than a mile and a half and then collapsing back into the lagoon withiin a couple of hours leaving nothing to rise any higher in the atmosphere, unlike what it does on land. In particular, no fallout, except within a couple of miles of the test. But then, he was being an art critic, not a physicist. Such inaccuracies do, however, find their way into the popular culture, giving me my soap box to stand upon. I didn't find the film very remarkable, but I've steeped myself in this for decades. SkoreKeep (talk) 18:59, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

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Proposal for change for all infoboxes[edit]

The previous test 'Trinity' uses an explicit image size 300px. All following ones don't specify it leaving default(pretty tiny) image. I'm not sure if most users are aware of or bother to change the default thumbnail size of 180 px in preferences. In addition the locations are listed separated by ; instead of using a plainlist (to ensure separate entries go on different lines)

The result is that in some tests the locations are exceeding hard to read and are jumbled together. Also there are too many line breaks because the infobox width is mainly taken from the image.

I propose to change all images to larger size (like Trinity) by changing the template upright=1.14 to upright 1.5 and change locations to plainlist. I did some tests on 'Redwing' and others and it looks better. Also the Infobox headers are not broken.

Here is the edited page (we can revert if needed) Operation Redwing

I just wanted to OK this with someone because its a big change affecting many pages. I suspect this page was the one that started the trend and others copied it. Crazytrain411 (talk) 20:29, 25 May 2017 (UTC)


Update: After a lot of investigation, found that infobox width can be adjusted. Changing location lists to plainlists and increasing the width slightly(along with slight image size increase) on the template itself solves the jumbled location problem and looks much nicer.Crazytrain411 (talk) 16:06, 26 May 2017 (UTC)