Talk:Order of precedence

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Italian precedence[edit]

Could someone fix the list with the Italian flag? Thanks. --Fertuno 18:49, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Added, at Template:Precedence. The Italian article needs updating to include the {{Precedence}} tag. --EdC 03:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


I see United States order of precedence and I see various general orders of precedence. A mayor outranks a county commissioner on the federal order of precedence, but falls below on the state order of precedence. Is the relative order determined by the who is hosting the event? Drop a note on my talk page if you reply here since I see traffic is infrequent and it may take a while to get a response.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 00:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Roman Catholic OoP?[edit]

Any links to the Roman Catholic Order of Precedence, hiarchic tree, or tabled list of rank and responsibilite? Personally I have this fasination with a government structure that has lasted about 1.6k years almost without change. Nothing to do with the relgion though I am guessing it might aid the Catholic Wikipedia community? Thank you in advance, (talk) 02:01, 22 August 2010 (UTC) 2010-08-21 T19:01

Precedence in 1860s English society[edit]

The article mentions that "Historically, the order of precedence had a more widespread use, especially in court and aristocratic life", but gives no detail. A description and an implied attitude to precedence in 1860s London are given in Anthony Trollope's novel The Last Chronicle of Barset, in the chapter Mrs Dobbs Broughton's Dinner-Party (public domain, via Project Gutenberg):

" had become [Mr Crosbie's] duty to wait with his arm ready for Mrs Dobbs Broughton. Having married an earl's daughter he was selected for that honour. There was a barrister in the room, and Mrs Dobbs Broughton ought to have known better. As she professed to be guided in such matters by the rules laid down by the recognised authorities, she ought to have been aware that a man takes no rank from his wife. But she was entitled I think to merciful consideration for her error. A woman situated as was Mrs Dobbs Broughton cannot altogether ignore these terrible rules. She cannot let her guests draw lots for precedence. She must select some one for the honour of her own arm. And amidst the intricacies of rank how is it possible for woman to learn and to remember everything? If Providence would only send Mrs Dobbs Broughton a Peer for every dinner-party, the thing would go more easily; but what woman will tell me, off-hand, which should go out of a room first: a C.B., an Admiral of the Blue, the Dean of Barchester, or the Dean of Arches? Who is to know who was everybody's father? How am I to remember that young Thompson's progenitor was made a baronet and not a knight when he was Lord Mayor? Perhaps Mrs Dobbs Broughton ought to have known that Mr Crosbie could have gained nothing by his wife's rank, and the barrister may be considered to have been not immoderately severe when he simply spoke of her afterwards as the silliest and most ignorant old woman he had ever met in his life. Eames with the lovely Miss Demolines on his arm was the last to move before the hostess. Mr Dobbs Broughton had led the way energetically with old Lady Demolines. There was no doubt about Lady Demolines,—as his wife had told him, because her title marked her. Her husband had been a physician in Paris, and had been knighted in consequence of some benefit supposed to have been done to some French scion of royalty,—when such scions in France were royal and not imperial. Lady Demolines' rank was not much certainly; but it served to mark her, and was beneficial."

- Jimrhiz (talk) 01:37, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

South Africa[edit]

Do we have an entry for South Africa? --Pete (talk) 15:43, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes. See Lists (decorations and medals). -- André Kritzinger (talk) 21:02, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I didn't spot that. However, on looking at the lovely list on the right hand side of the article, all flags and subgroups for provinces, very well done, I clicked on the south African entry and was taken to the medal-wearing bit, rather than the wig bigness list I was expecting. --Pete (talk) 21:26, 20 December 2014 (UTC)