Talk:Order of Karađorđe's Star

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search


There will be new awards of this order on 15 February 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:47, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

What degrees were they awarded in?[edit]

Does anyone have a WP:RS for what degrees the Order was awarded in? And who was awarded what degree? Cheers, Peacemaker67 (talk) 07:34, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

This is not a WP:RS, but this is a possible answer

first class Grand cross second class Grand officer third class Commander fourth class Officer see [1]. Peacemaker67 (talk) 12:07, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

In WWI a dozen or more of the lower degrees were awarded to Australian officers and soldiers, mostly non-commissioned officers. Peacemaker67 (talk) 12:22, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Order of Karađorđe's Star/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 10:23, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

I'll review this one. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 10:23, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well written:
1a. the prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct.
1b. it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
  • the lead section doesn't mention that many if not all of the awards made by Peter II as govt-in-exile were controversial, as they were made to Axis collaborators. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 10:27, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
2b. all in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines.
2c. it contains no original research.
  • The claim for Milunka Savic needs to be attributed in the way it was in her article.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
  • a significant issue here is the lack of information about awards made by Peter II. Nothing but a mention that awards were made. Given the 45 years or so, some mention of who was awarded it and when would be appropriate, and lack thereof would be a basis for a fail of the article as a whole. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 10:27, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
    • this just squeaks in on this criteria. If brought to Milhist A-Class Review without any information on awards during the Cold War by the family, I'd say it might fail there on comprehensiveness. However, having reconsidered, I believe this criteria is just met. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 06:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
7. Overall assessment. Placing on hold for seven days for outstanding points to be addressed Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 04:18, 5 October 2015 (UTC)Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 00:33, 10 October 2015 (UTC)Passing Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 06:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

@Peacemaker67: I couldn't find any info re: Orders awarded during the Cold War. 23 editor (talk) 16:04, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

OK, I've reconsidered. See above. Passing. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 06:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Wasn't planning on nominating it for ACR, but I will most certainly delve into some Serbo-Croatian sources in the meantime to see if this can be addressed. Texts and other resources available online have turned up nothing. 23 editor (talk) 14:59, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Order of Karađorđe's Star. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

You may set the |checked=, on this template, to true or failed to let other editors know you reviewed the change. If you find any errors, please use the tools below to fix them or call an editor by setting |needhelp= to your help request.

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

If you are unable to use these tools, you may set |needhelp=<your help request> on this template to request help from an experienced user. Please include details about your problem, to help other editors.

Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 15:34, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Proposed page move[edit]

So far as I am aware, the name "Order of Karađorđe's Star" has been created on Wikipedia, whereas the name almost invariably used in English-language reliable sources is "Order of the Star of Karageorge". See, for instance, the list following. Does anyone see any objection to the page being moved to Order of the Star of Karageorge? Moonraker (talk) 01:12, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

  1. Kelly's Handbook to the Titled, Landed & Official Classes (1918), p. 12 : "Foreign Orders... Order of the Star of Kara-George of Serbia"
  2. Robert E. Wyllie, Orders, Decorations and Insignia, Military and Civil (1921), p. 178 : "The senior order of Serbia is the Star of Karageorge which was founded by the present king, Peter I..."
  3. William G. Valko, The Illustrated Who's who in Reigning Royalty (1969), p. 137 : "Order of Star of Karageorge of Yugoslavia..."
  4. Seaby's Coin and Medal Bulletin (1978), p. 154 : "Order of the Star of Karageorge. Breast badge of knight 1st CI..."
  5. John Clarke, Gallantry Medals & Decorations of the World (2000) p. 218 : "Order of the Star of Karageorge instituted in January 1904 in four classes..."
  6. Guy Stair Sainty, World Orders of Knighthood and Merit Volume 2 (2006), p. 2078: "Order of the Karageorge Star of the Republic..."
  7. Encyclopedia Americana Volume 1 (Scholastic Library Publishing,2006), p. 703 : "Star of Karageorge, Order of the (Serbia)"
  8. Nigel Thomas, ‎Dusan Babac, Armies in the Balkans 1914–18 (2012), p. 38 : "... and displays the Karageorge Star in gold with swords for bravery."
  9. Serbia Foreign Policy and National Security Yearbook Volume 1 (IBP, Inc. 2014) "THE ORDER OF THE STAR OF KARAGEORGE King Petar I instituted the Order on 1 January 1904, to commemorate his own accession to the Serbian Throne and the centenary of the First Serbian Uprising against the Ottoman Turks..."