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I think that this article should be merged with Oriya language, it seems more logical. user talk:24.107.115.178 00:59, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I'll put the merge tags on. Thryduulf 16:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I am removing the merge tags because:

  1. Most languages on wikipedia which possess a distinctive script have a seperate article about the script, even if it is a stub.
  2. The other wikipedias have seperate articles of the two, so it would be confusing to have multiple interwiki links.

Of course, the merge tags can always be re-added, but I don't see any compelling reasons other than the short length of this article. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 02:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Oriya script is not evolved from Bengali script as per the page[edit]

Dear Readers/writers,

Just went thru the page 'Oriya script' thought there is something written incorrect and needs to be rectified so that readers shouldn't be missguided about the 'Oriya script'.I would like to mention few points here which may be helpful to edit the page with correct info. Modern-day Oriya has been discovered to have originated from the Prakrit form known as Magadhi or Pali, a language spoken across kingdoms and cultures across Eastern India over 1,500 years ago. With a very strong resemblance to the modern languages, Bangla (Bengali) and Ahomiya (Assamese), Oriya distinctively seems to be relatively uninfluenced by Persian and Arabic, despite Orissa's long history of administration by the Mughals. Oriya is essentially considered to be a modified form of the Odri Prakrit form. This form of Prakrit is in turn derived from Sanskrit via the transitional Bibhasas. Modern Oriya vocabulary is estimated to be composed of 70% Sanskrit, 2% Hindustani/Persian/Arabic with the remaining 28% of mainly "Adivasi" origin.

Oriya, Bengali and Assamese all come from the same Eastern Magadhi Apabhramsa and are considered to be sister languages.

I want to express strong objection regarding the statement "Many people believe that the modern Oriya script is derived from an old form of the Bengali script."Just to emphasize on my point that both Oriya as well as Bengali scripts are different altogether and one can easily understand the same by viewing both scripts.For your reference, can check this site to get an idea regarding both the scripts and how these look like: http://www.omniglot.com/writing/oriya.htm http://www.omniglot.com/writing/bengali.htm

So would like to see appropriate info on the page by considering the above mentioned points.

Thanks, Sucharita —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.197.209.138 (talk) 09:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I support the move to change the description. To a typical Bengali person odia script will be difficult to understand as it has no resemblance to their script. Same the otherway round. They also have different number of letters and alphabets with seperate usage and meaning. For example "Darun" can be good and beautiful in Bengali wheras in Odia "Darun" means just the opposite. 216.163.246.1 (talk) 14:56, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Most of what you have written is irrelevant to the Oriya script (see Oriya language, and you will find the information you mentioned included in taht article). That said, you yourself are welcome to make any modifications as you see fit, so long as you can corroborate what you write. Just for your information, the present state of teh article seems to be based on information from Omniglot, and the Oriya script's descent from old forms of Bengali script is cited in ancientscripts.com. Also, it is not at all reliable to judge alphabets' lineages from the way they look now; besides, they actually look remarkably similar, and the differences can be accounted for by the historical use of palm leaves with pointed styli. Anyway, as I said before, you are welcome to make such modifications yourself. Happy editing.
Tanzeel 14:53, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Again,

Sorry for late response, as i haven't check this page. I have not posted any irrelevant information and i am sticking to my words.

Please go thru the sites below as based on one site you can't come to a conclusion. http://www.ontopia.net/i18n/ftree.jsp?id=1600 http://www.ontopia.net/i18n/script.jsp?id=1600 http://www.bhashaindia.com/Patrons/LanguageTech/Oriya.aspx

And please refer these books, from these the 2nd one is available on net too. http://www.easternbookcorporation.com/moreinfo.php?txt_searchstring=8032 - book Palaeography of Orissa The Indo-Aryan Languages By Dhanesh Jain, George Cardona - refer page 94 and 95 to clear your misconception

I have gone thru almost all details available in net, and found the info which i gave is correct and nowhere its concluded that oriya scripts are descendants of bengali scripts.The 2nd book mentioned above, will clear all your doubts. Though they look same but derived from Nagari script.And yes they are sister language but the other way as mentioned in the webpage.

And let me ask you if you are posting some details, please corroborate.

Thanks, Sucharita —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.60.1.230 (talk) 11:41, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Spelling used in Quotation[edit]

I've undone the last change, because this text is a quotation which should have the same spelling as the original! - By the way: To use a simple "d" instead of "ṛ" would be definitely wrong, as it stands for a retroflex sound, i.e. there sould have been at least a "ḍ". --OldKnip (talk) 09:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Please have a look at the Oriya Wikipedia main page. There the name of the language is spelt ଓଡ଼ିଆ. So transliteration as "oṛiyā" is a must! --OldKnip (talk) 08:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Please stop changing one ṛ after the other into "d", as this is definitely wrong! ṛ stands here for the retroflex flap (Devanagari ड़), not for syllabic "r" (Devanagari ऋ). --OldKnip (talk) 08:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:INDIA Banner/Orissa Addition[edit]

Note: {{WP India}} Project Banner with Orissa workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under Category:Orissa or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article -- Amartyabag TALK2ME 02:49, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Recent changes by User:Chiumohapatra[edit]

This user's overhaul of the article may very well have been a major improvement and corrected many errors, I can't tell, I'm not an expert and am not making a judgment on the validity of the changes. The reason I reverted is because drastic changes to any article normally require AT LEAST an edit summary if not a full explanation or request for comments on the talk page first. This editor does appear to be new to Wikipedia and I'm not trying to be bitey here, but that's just how we do things on Wikipedia--normal etiquette being a discussion on the talkpage to gain consensus first (WP:BOLD notwithstanding). If someone else here that has this article watchlisted and can verify and attest the changes made by User:Chiumohapatra, feel free to undo my revert. -- œ 09:16, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Sample Text[edit]

What sample text? --TiagoTiago (talk) 21:53, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Oriya language which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 13:00, 18 February 2013 (UTC)