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Turks ≠ Ottomans[edit]

For the inhabitants of modern Turkey, see Turkey. Among other things, they're not all Turks.

That is true, there are also Kurds. But Turkey received the name of the Turks. The Kurds, who live in several different states now, were sectioned and quartered compliments victorious allies, just as many other people were. H.J.

yes, but Turkey got its name from the (much larger group) Turks, not the Turks from Turkey, so defining 'Turks' as those 'who live in Turkey' is not accurate. Not to mention the fact that Turkic peoples live in many many states. --MichaelTinkler

Right, Turkic Turks live in TurkeyH.J.

and in Turkmenistan, Turkestan, Uzbekistan, etc., etc.

It is absolute nonsense to say that the Ottomans fled the Han-Dynasty during the 12th century A.D. The Han-Dynasty was ruling during the two centuries B.C. and A.D.

I agree that Ottomans ≠ Turks (Ottoman Turks). There were many Greeks, Serbs, Albanians who were ruling class of the Ottoman Empire. Also, Ottoman Empire was also ruled from the territory which was out of the territory of existing Turkey. This article needs reconstruction.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:16, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Garbled sentence in section on Ottoman Turks[edit]

The section on Ottoman Turks contains this sentence: "While initially is illuminated manuscript work." Obviously it is garbled. I'd fix it myself but I'm not sure exactly what the intended meaning is.

DMJ001 (talk) 22:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

What land route?[edit]

" The Ottoman Turks blocked all land routes to Europe by conquering the city of Constantinople, the capital city of the Byzantine Empire" Naturally they did not block ALL land routes to Europe - just the ones leading through Constantinople. The Mongols for example came from Asia to Europe through the steppes north of the black sea. And as the Ottomans already conquered a large part of the Balkan BEFORE conquering Constantinople obviously wrong- how would they be able to conquer the area of Bulgaria/Rumelia when Constantinople is the "only landroute"? Perhaps " The Ottoman Turks blocked all trading routes from Asia to Europe by conquering the city of Constantinople, the capital city of the Byzantine Empire"? ConjurerDragon (talk) 11:51, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Exactly - trade caravans through the central and European steppe would have been open to raids and much too risky. HammerFilmFan (talk) 02:37, 26 August 2011 (UTC) HammerFilmFan