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Please Update the PBS page
Hi, my name is Natalie and I work at PBS. I had made changes from an account I created "PBSofficial", not realizing I couldn't do so. Sorry about that. Here are the two paragraphs we would like updated.
|A requested edit by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. The proposed text is good and only needed minor copyediting to remove editorialized language, however the sources (a primary sources and a press release) cannot be used. If you can find proper sourcing, I would be happy to move the expanded information into article-space CorporateM (Talk) 18:02, 24 May 2014 (UTC)|
- CURRENT COPY
PBS was founded by Hartford N. Gunn Jr. of WGBH-TV in Boston, Massachusetts, as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting on October 5, 1970, at which time it took over many of the functions of its predecessor, National Educational Television (NET), which later merged with Newark, New Jersey station WNDT to form WNET. In 1973, it merged with Educational Television Stations.
- PROPOSED REVISION
On Nov. 3, 1969, four public broadcasters, including the presidents of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) and National Educational Television (NET), incorporated a new nonprofit organization to interconnect the public television stations, taking on those functions of NET.
Citation: Public Broadcasting PolicyBase (January 14, 2000). "Articles of Incorporation of Public Broadcasting Service". Current Newspaper. Retrieved 2013-01-03 (SEE http://www.current.org/wp-content/themes/current/archive-site/pbpb/documents/PBSarticles69.html)
[Note: The Public Broadcasting Policy Base is listed currently as a citation on the PBS Wikipedia page. ]
President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the first Public Broadcasting Act in November 1967,
paving the way for leading to the formation of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB). As the steward of federal funds to support public television and radio stations and program production, CPB recommended the formation of a national program distribution service. The Public Broadcasting Service was born, and its headquarters was established in Washington, DC. Hartford Gunn, president and general manager of public television station WGBH in Boston, was named the first president of PBS in March 1970. The service was composed of 128 local member stations.
Citation: Public Broadcasting Service. (1999). PBS Celebrates 30 years of television at its best [Press release].
|An impartial editor has reviewed the proposed edit(s) and asked the editor with a conflict of interest to go ahead and make the suggested changes.|
- CURRENT COPY
The Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) is an American broadcast television network. The non-profit public broadcaster has 354 member television stations which hold collective ownership. The network's headquarters are located in Arlington, Virginia.
- PROPOSED REVISION
The Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) is an American broadcast television network. The non-profit public broadcaster has more than 350 member television stations that that are independently owned and operated. The network's headquarters are located in Arlington, Virginia.
Note: The current entry notes: “Unlike public broadcasters in most other countries, PBS does not own any of the stations that broadcast its programming (in context, there are no PBS owned-and-operated stations anywhere in the country). This is partly due to the origins of the PBS stations themselves, and partly due to historical broadcast license issues.” Given this, I think asking for the above change is reasonable. NatNBen (talk) 15:58, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing out this important error! Sorry for the long wait in the Request Edit queue. I prefer not to do them, but with nobody else looking after the queue, someone's got to do it. This is a good edit, please go ahead and make the correction. However, actual sources would be nice (there were none in the text). CorporateM (Talk) 18:04, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
I propose merging PBS logos to PBS, since I observed that documenting numerous individual logos of a single topic is barely tolerable in Wikipedia, and previous similar logo histories have been removed. That article doesn't have enough references to be sustainable, and in my opinion, the undertaken detail to describe each logo's sound and visual effects without importance is unacceptable. And according to one of the cleanup messages, there is a non-neutral POV. I guess the merge would turn the article into a section in the PBS article with a short and general history of the logo. TheGGoose (talk) 17:04, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support. Such articles have all been merged or deleted. Not notable enough for an article, and more than a small mention here would be too much. Give it a small section with a quick overview, but be sure that it isn't weighed down by a ton of useless trivia (which the existing article largely contains). oknazevad (talk) 20:25, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- I speculate how the section has to be written; in the introduction, should we mention the very first ident and/or the 1971 logo/ident that introduced the "P"? Then after describing the first logo's introduction, put details of its creation by Lubalin Smith Carnase. Should ident revisions be listed, by like only stating the years PBS got new idents? These are suggestions. TheGGoose (talk) 17:00, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose. The article on PBS logos survived several Afd's; go to the talk page if you don't believe me. Georgia guy (talk) 17:19, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Comment. WP:CCC. Old afd's don't handcuff us from seeing if there's still support. Frankly, considering how utterly terrible in terms of unsourced trivia the other article is, there's no reason to keep it. oknazevad (talk) 20:09, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose, per Georgia guy for the same reason. — Wyliepedia 19:31, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
May I inquire why is there no "Ownership" subsection, where the ownership structure of the company would be explained? Would it make sense to create one?