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new paint scheme seen in the wild[edit]

Spotted a note on one of the other rail transport boards today about a new paint scheme for Pan Am Railways.

Is there a Wikipedian in the area who can get and upload a free image for us? Slambo (Speak) 18:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll try to get a photo ASAP. I've been trying to get photos of the first two units in Pan Am paint -- 505 and 511 -- but there's always been some obstructing object in the way, or bad lighting, or both. The shot of the Pan Am boxcar was the best I've been able to come up with so far. Hopefully in the near future I'll encounter the 506 and have my camera with me. —BMRR (talk) 22:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


Still haven't seen it in person, but Rod Bushway posted a shot on RailPictures.Net:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=239011
BMRR (talk) 23:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


307 has recently emerged in the new paint scheme, as seen here
Shame they couldn't take the time to touch up the numberboards.
BMRR (talk) 04:07, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, I still haven't caught the units in the dark blue "retro" Pan Am paint, but I finally caught the 505 and the 511 -- the two units in the "modern" Pan Am livery. Only took me three years to lens 'em! The photo is rather poor due to the distance and the angle, but I suppose it's better than nothing, so I added it to the article.
BMRR (talk) 22:53, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Today I finally caught two of the "retro" units. Crappy (but better than nothing) photo added to the article. —BMRR (talk) 01:08, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Aircraft owned by Pan Am Railways[edit]

Does anyone know what PAR is going to do with all the Boeing 727s and British Areospace J31s that the FAA has registered to them after the fall Pan Am "Clipper Connection"? Are they in storage or are they leasing them out? Are they producing any income for PAR? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrebstad (talkcontribs) 22:07, Aug 18, 2007

This is the first I've heard of it, in regards to the aircraft being transferred from the airline to the railroad. Do you have a source for this -- e.g. web site link, news article, etc.?
BMRR (talk) 16:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Delaware and Hudson[edit]

This article mentions that the Delaware and Hudson Railroad was purchaced by GTI (now PanAm), and although I have heard this from multiple people, there is no reference cited, and the article for the D&H has no mention of this, instead saying that the D&H is a subsidiary of Canadian National. Also in the photo of the Pan Am Headquarters, the sign shows four railroads operated by Pan Am, and the D&H is not listed there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Parcanman (talkcontribs) 15:13, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  1. It is in fact mentioned in the D&H article — if you go to the article and scroll down to section 3 (Delaware and Hudson Railway), the info about Guilford is in the second paragraph. That article doesn't have inline reference citations, but it does list a few external references, one of which is this D&H Timeline from the D&H historical society. Scroll down and you'll see the relevant dates for D&H being acquired by Guilford, D&H being relinquished by Guilford, and D&H being acquired by Canadian Pacific. (Note that it's Canadian Pacific, not Canadian National.)
  2. Give me a day or two and I'll add some references to this article (and also the D&H article if I can remember it).
  3. The reason D&H isn't listed on the PAR HQ sign is because PAR no longer owns the D&H (see above).
Hope this helps clarify things a bit! –BMRR (talk) 19:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

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Needs references;Still not quite broad enough to move from start to B class. Slambo (Speak) 20:23, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

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