Talk:Panzerhaubitze 2000

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POV with the text about the crusader system[edit]

"Generally the PzH 2000 could be modified to meet the Crusader requirements without too many modifications, but it is clear that the US actually wants to buy a US design." This is lacking NPOV. On several occasions the United States army has bought european hardware because it meets their requirements better than the American hardware available. It isn't Wikipedia's mission to start guessing about things like this, especially when there really isn't much to back the claim.

I removed "In addition the Crusader included an automated ammunition tender, although that would likely be not too difficult to add to the PzH 2000." This kind of layman's guessing isn't suitable for an encyclopedia.
Quote: "PzH 2000 contractor officials said that they could develop an automated resupply vehicle based on the PzH 2000 chassis and modify the PzH 2000 howitzer to meet all of the Crusader key requirements and many of the other Crusader requirements. Also, they believed that they could field these vehicles within 6 years of the start of development, assuming that U.S. government-furnished material, such as the actively cooled cannon, was available when needed."
Just because the PzH is superior to the Paladin, it doesn't make it completley outdated. I changed "now outdated Paladin" to "less effective Paladin".- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 07:20, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Rate of fire (ROF)[edit]

What does, "Rate of fire: 3 rounds per 10 seconds, 8 rounds per minute, 20 rounds per 3 minutes", mean? Is it burst, sustained, rapid .... ? -- Htra0497 (talk) 03:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


The crew descriptions are inconsistent between some of the prose, and the stats and infobox crew lines. The count of German orders doesn't line up with the number reportedly in service. Clarification would be greatly helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:33, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the numbers, Germany only bought 185 howitzers, and actualy operates 153, with the others mothballed due to limited use of artillery and cutting costs. Those additional 410 mentioned were never built. I have to make an educated guess, but I think it was planned to replace the M109s in the remaining artillery regiments a that time, but this became obsolete with the reforms the german army underwent in the coming years (all of those artillery units that did not introduce the PzH2000s ordered by 1998 were dissolved between 1999 and 2008). (talk) 19:06, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

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