Talk:Pat Cadigan

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The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. --KenWalker | Talk 05:21, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

the article was nominated for deletion by mistake: see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Pat Cadigan. Mikkalai 23:45, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

this article doesn't mention pat cadigan's short story "angel" that apeared in the 1987 may issue of Isaac asimov's science fiction magazine


I've more or less finished editing this entry to resemble a true bibliography, as I've done previously to the entries of Brian Stableford, Fred Saberhagen, Nancy Kress & Charles Sheffield. The Deadpan Allie series remains a mystery, though: is the novel Mindplayers a fix-up of the stories, a sequel, what? For that matter, I'm sure there are other stories out there; I'll add them as I find them. Tom Dean (talk) 19:37, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Update: A few days ago, I received a memo in My Talk about my posting of a Bibliography in the entry of Nancy Kress. Apparently, some consider the entry to be "gigantic" and too daunting to a "casual" Wikipedia user , whatever that is. Consequently, I will be spending the next week or so creating collapsible tables for the entries that I have edited at Wikipedia, including Cadigan's here. Tom Dean (talk) 15:32, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Deadpan Allie[edit]

I finally managed to locate a copy of Mindplayers (my personal copy is buried in storage somewhere), and it is indeed a fix-up; thus, the entry is updated this date. Now, if I could only find a copy of "A Lie for a Lie," which I'm pretty sure is the last of the Deadpan Allie stories... Tom Dean (talk) 19:15, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Today, I purchased an ebook copy of Ellen Datlow's anthology, Wild Justice, which first saw life in 1996 as Lethal Kisses. After reading Pat Cadigan's novelette "A Lie for a Lie," I'm convinced it's a Deadpan Allie story, although the protagonist's name never seems to be mentioned. A sentence near the end gives it away: "But I don't lie, even by omission, and this would mean I had to." Tom Dean (talk) 17:18, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Yesterday, I finished reading the whole schmeer: Mindplayers, "Dirty Work," & "A Lie for A Lie." Quite a saga, although I was more than a little disappointed in Mindplayers; most of the interstitial material around the sections titled "Nearly Departed," "Variation on a Man," & "Lunatic Bridge" involve the character Jerry Wirerammer, whose exploits with Allie I found to be as dull as dishwater. I can see why "A Lie for a Lie" has rarely if ever been listed as a Deadpan Allie story: although she is, as usual, the narrator, her name never comes up, nor that of her former boss/company, associates, etc. However, she mentions the "aphasia traslator" that has been installed in her eye, and she is frequently inhibited by an inability to speak. Deadpan Allie suffered permanent aphasia and speechlessness as a result of the mindcrime at the end of "Dirty Work." If there are any additional Deadpan Allie stories out there, I'm not aware of them. Tom Dean (talk) 15:47, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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