Talk:Phantom (console)

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Business model[edit]

"purchase a selected number of games for free each month" ?

Since this console seems to exist exclusively in entirely fictional universes, I don't think the specifics matter much.--Deridolus 01:48, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Since the subscription is a monthly service, one pays for that and then gets to download a number of games. Since you only have limited space and no way to remove the games, you can only keep them for a short time. It is akin to the NetFlix of the video game world. - 22:05, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Article template[edit]

Shouldn't the article use the {{future product}} template? PeepP 11:39, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

It should have a {{nonexistant product}} template. --Vyran 06:16, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

I strongly doubt even if Infinium Labs has the financial resources to bring out the Phantom. Read their SEC filings if you understand them. - XX55XX 3 October 2005

It is a future product. The console is dead, and Phantom Entertainment has turned it in to a software system to work on PCs with windows XP.--Jt_200075 15th September 2006 (UTC)

Point of view[edit]

"All the hype and spin from the leadership at Infinium labs"? Sounds rather POV. Unfortunately, I'm not really close enough to the issues to know what's speculation and what's confirmed. Sneftel 00:58, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I've removed any POV content and the NPOV flag. -Asriel 19:32, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
The article works fine either way, but "spin and hype" are not POV terms in this case. There are documented cases of "spin" and "hype" simply advertising before a product is released which is thus far the only two things Infinium Labs has produced to the public. - 22:05, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Where did this come from?[edit]

"On October 31, 2005 it came to light that the Securities and Exchange Commission have given notice to Tim Roberts, chairman of Infinium Labs' board of directors, that charges are being planned against him for violating federal securities law. [1] Although not officially specified by the SEC, Infinium suspects the charges are related to an SEC investigation that revealed phony fax scams, where several penny stocks, Infinium among them, were unlawfully promoted to investors.

On October 31, it was also revealed that while Tim Roberts was CEO of Infinium, the company wasn't properly reporting its payroll taxes. The company now owes large fines and interest. All this comes after Infinium revealed they have only have a grand total of $134,000, yet they are at least $4 million in debt."

Source, anyone? XX55XX, 2 November 2005

Oh sorry, just found the link... - XX55XX

Moving Legal Conflict[edit]

I think that the Legal Conflict section should be moved to the Infinium Labs article. There isn't anything in this section that pertains to the console, just to the company and the CEO. Anyone have disagree? --Polkapunk 17:31, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

If you insist, then do so. I see nothing wrong with that. XX55XX 22:08, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

This company has one product, the console (and now just the keyboard of the console). Any problems that arise against the company and SEC allegations against its CEO are as relevant as they would be if they merely named the console. -- Bobak 17:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

As soon as the most recent SEC blurb was removed, it was recreated (in a more muddled form). I think there should at least be a passing mention since the scheme used to promote this vaporware (and get the SEC on the former CEO) sheds some light on why the console may never be released -- Bobak 22:44, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Penny Arcade[edit]

Should Penny Arcade be mentioned here? They spent a fair bit of time (and at least three comics) making fun of the product and implying it was nonexistant. Titanium Dragon (talk) 10:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Phantom prototype.jpg[edit]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 16:24, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Breathing New Life into Phantom Entertainment[edit]

I'd like to begin by saying, I know the last 3/4 years of the Phantom Company have been horrible. But I'm talking as a stock holder of the company and independent consultant for them. Things are turning around - we have a staff of 4 people, 4 people that have that old goal in sight and are working really hard to get the company going again. WE have tremendous finacial obstacles to overcome due to previous members, - yet we are pushing forward. The lapboard is in production as we speak, our inital shipment has been received and we are planning another batch. A blog has been created to track our progress and answer your questions - please if we could start a new page with Phantom, the 4 of us would deeply appreciate the support. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phantomlives (talkcontribs) 17:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Phantom Game Receiver[edit]

Although the article states that the console "is not listed on the Products page of the website and has been cancelled," the website still lists the platform (re-branded as the Phantom Game Receiver) as "coming soon," and lists the 2004 specifications here. Thus, the "As of August 15 2006" subsection of "Rise and Fall of the Console" should probably be updated. -Luinfana (talk) 21:39, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Proposing change of name to "Phantom (alleged game system)"[edit]

...or even "Phantom (imaginary game system)" for that matter. After all, something that we have no proof actually exists can hardly be called a "game system". I find that the name of this so-called console is strangely ironic, and still have a sneaking feeling it was a long-running practical joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:38, 2 May 2009 (UTC)