Talk:Philip Neri

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Uncited tag[edit]

I've added references, and there was actually one in there already, just hidden. Perhaps we can take the tag down now? Carl.bunderson (talk) 19:29, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Well I took it down. Carl.bunderson (talk) 08:40, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

A sentence that could perhaps be phrased better.[edit]

"After two years he began to pursue his own studies (for a period of three years) under the guidance of the Augustinians,[4] and following this he began those labors amongst the sick and poor which gained him in later life the title of "Apostle of Rome", besides paying nightly visits to whore houses to introduce them to the churches of the city and to the catacombs."

Is there any chance the information in that sentence could be phrased more simply? I am sort of not quite sure exactly whom or what Neri is introducing "to the churches of the city and to the catacombs." -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 03:15, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I've rephrased it, and split it into two sentences. I fixed it to say that he introduced the prostitutes to the churches, as that's the only subject it could sensibly be. Carl.bunderson (talk) 08:40, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Date incorrect[edit]

It appears that the date of his relocation to Rome should be 1533 rather than 1523. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.235.34.182 (talk) 13:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Churches[edit]

There is a disambiguation page on the Italian Wikipeida for churches dedicated to Philip Neri it:Chiesa di San Filippo Neri, which will be useful if someone wants to construct a similar list of churches on this English Wikipedia. --PBS (talk) 13:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Date of feast[edit]

I don't understand the references to "traditional" and "reformed" calendars. I assume that "reformed" means the calendar promulgated after Vatican II. If I'm right, then the article is wrong about the reformed date being May 25. The new Roman Missal has his feast on May 26. 5/26/12 Caeruleancentaur (talk) 12:02, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, traditional refers to the EF and reformed to the OF. I've fixed it accordingly. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 17:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Spelling[edit]

Normal spelling is "Philip", but many references, esp. in USA, use "Phillip".
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86.171.101.142 (talk) 15:03, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Style, etc.[edit]

Neri had no difficulties in respect of the teaching of his church, being in truth an ardent Ultramontane in doctrine, as was all but inevitable in his time and circumstances, and his great merit was the instinctive tact which showed him that the system of monasticism could never be the leaven of secular life, but that something more homely, simple, and everyday in character was needed for the new time.

It is often said that the Wikipedia should not hagiographize. I don't mind hagiographies, personally (you can, perhaps, often learn more from a fervent adherent than if everything has to be toned down for neutrality). At any rate, though, - this was a parenthesis - I find it somehow comical (and also unfitting) how this piece of Protestant-toned hagiography could make its way into the article of a Catholic saint. (You know, using the surname even though it is an appraisal, excusing St. Philip for his Ultramontanism [= Catholicism?], as though that needed excusing rather than praise; turning him into an anti-monasticist when in all probability he only thought about doing also something else; making him appear as thinking traditional religious life could nowise contribute to the modern time when in all probability he would only have said that something else was needed too and, perhaps, could do so more forcefully, and so on.)--131.159.0.47 (talk) 18:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC)