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Snapshots[edit]

I would like to propose the addition of Snapshot photography (se also Snapshot aesthetic) to the list of photography forms. Xyzt1234 20:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Cool Bjsaran (talk) 00:27, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Definition of Photography[edit]

I object to the mention of electronic sensors in the opening definition. Digital imaging is not photography. They are two completely divergent processes that have only the use of a lens to project an image and a final graphic output in common. They are as different as silk screen (serography) and oil painting, both of which produce a graphic through application of pigments to a board, but are not related processes in any other way. Digital imaging is no more closely related to photography than Xerography, and we make that very valid distinction. The same distinction should be made between digital imaging and photography, on the same grounds: the processes are too dissimilar to be synonymous; the fact that they both involve image capture is insufficient to make them equal.

Michael Cleveland —Preceding [Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by 63.3.13.130 (talk) 19:25, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure I get your point. The very first sentence states "Photography is the process, activity and art of creating still or moving pictures by recording radiation on a sensitive medium, such as a photographic film, or an electronic sensor." An electronic sensor is no less valid a way of recording images than film. The article mentions that "the resulting information [is stored] chemically or electronically", which to me sounds correct. You seem to be arguing that photography is strictly defined as the creation of a physical visible imprint - is it? In any case, practically anyone looking to find out more about the concept of photography (i.e. the people reading this article) would be tragically misled if the article did not also represent digital photography.
Furthermore, you correctly state that digital imaging is not photography - digital imaging is the science of capturing light or any other radiation, and converting it to a digital signal. Similarly, I would argue that the science behind the chemical reactions that take place inside photographic film is also not photography. The article, correctly, does not equate photography and digital imaging, as it does not equate photography and film development.
Finally, you seem to imply that xerography is another technique for creating photographic images, in the way that film photography and digital photography can create such images. That is simply not true, as xerography is contact-based and cannot capture light focused by an objective, which is what photography does.Tomatoman (talk) 15:58, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
It could just as easily be argued that photography doesn't require a lens or even a camera. Pinhole cameras do not have lenses and photographic artists such as James Welling, Walead Beshty and Christian Marclay, who are exponents of what is known as "camera less photography", don't even use cameras in most cases. If it is going to be argued that photography is the art, science and practice of making images, then the definition can therefore be more than simply scientific and in the interests of fairness, should probably include other aspects. What about camera obscura? "Photo" = "light" and "graphy" from "drawing". No mention there of digital sensors, lenses or even cameras. Flanker235 (talk) 03:06, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Traditional xerography can, indeed, capture light focused by an objective, and normally does. Typically, the optics scan the source material, rather than imaging it all at once, because the light-sensitive surface is cylindrical. See the xerography article. AVarchaeologist (talk) 19:19, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes xerography most often uses an objective lens for recording. In the case of laser printers, it is a cylindrical lens. Printing from photographic negatives and positives is now most often done by scanning and then printing the scanned image. Printing of the scanned image, or printing the file from a digital camera, is done on either photographic (light sensitive) paper, or though a non-photographic process. In the case of either silver halide film, or silicon sensors, the process involves the creation of electron-hole pairs in a semiconductor. It is the amplification method that differs. Gah4 (talk) 16:48, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Color photography[edit]

The only old color photograph in this page is File:Taj Mahal 1921.JPG. A nice picture, but it's not iconic. Could it be replaced with File:Tartan Ribbon.jpg or something by Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii? Pictures like File:Alim Khan (1880–1944), Emir of Bukhara, photographed by S.M. Prokudin-Gorskiy in 1911.jpg and File:L.N.Tolstoy Prokudin-Gorsky.jpg would be good SMP-G pictures. 2001:18E8:2:28CA:F000:0:0:789 (talk) 18:14, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

My problem with the Taj Mahal image is that it shows a mechanically printed reproduction of that Autochrome, as published in the pages of National Geographic magazine, not the original Autochrome plate. Standard practice at the time was for the printing plate maker to locally adjust and retouch the three halftone printing plates, to compensate for shortcomings of the then-available CMY inks and other limitations of the printing process, which further removes what the image file shows us from the actual photo. Someone swapped the Taj pic in some months ago, replacing the so-called self-portrait of Prokudin-Gorsky now at the head of his WP article and which was a much more striking demonstration of the quality possible circa 1915. Rather than simply revert that edit or substitute some other widely reproduced "iconic" example (the 1861 "tartan" ribbon is already grossly ubiquitous), I have replaced the Taj with a fine 1903 portrait by Sarah Angelina Acland, an advanced amateur who tried out any and all available color processes beginning in 1899, three years before Prokudin-Gorsky was initiated into the mysteries by Miethe. AVarchaeologist (talk) 10:35, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Origin of Motion Pictures[edit]

I added film and video production to the direct uses of photography because motion pictures derived from still images. Cameron Roper (talk) 06:51, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Ref improve[edit]

Shouldn't we add a ref-improve tag? So many paragraphs are unsourced. If everyone agrees with me, I'll add it in the next few days. Keivan.fTalk 12:32, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

It seems that Photolithography, History of photography and History of the camera also have the same situation. Keivan.fTalk 12:35, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
I think it would be more useful to add the tag to sections or paragraphs that need citations rather than tagging the whole article. N0TABENE (talk) 13:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

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Evolution of the camera section picture gallery[edit]

Shouldn't there be the Kodak Instamatic, or its 126 film cartridge ? --Jerome Potts (talk) 16:09, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

It seems to me that the gallery is not complete, and that many others could be included. Gah4 (talk) 13:15, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Gulumeemee (talk) 09:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)