Talk:PlayStation 4

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Redirect of PlayStation 4 launch, retail configurations and pricing[edit]

The "PlayStation 4 launch, retail configurations and pricing" is redirecting to the main article. However, it looks like it is directing to a different article, if the other article doesn't exist, it should not be included as a link. 189.165.42.109 (talk) 23:54, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

GA[edit]

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Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 19:40, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


I'll take this JAGUAR  19:40, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Initial comments[edit]

  • "as an eighth generation of video game consoles" - as part of the eighth generation of video game consoles
  • I think the lead should be reorganised into four paragraphs, per WP:LEADLENGTH. The sentence "During the 2014 fiscal year, PS4 topped video game global console sales" should definitely be merged
  • "In early 2013, Sony announced that an event known as PlayStation Meeting 2013 would be held in New York City, U.S.," - no need for 'US' here
  • "Chief executive, Kazuo Hirai, said in May" - Chief executive of what?
  • "An official price cut in Europe followed in late Oct 2015" - October
  • "released in Japan at 39,980 Yen" - why is the Yen symbol not shown here?
  • "On 9 September 2015, the ps4 official came out of the PS4 in North America was announced" - I see that a dmy date is used here. The article uses mdy dates throughout, so which one should be used?
  • "The technology in the PlayStation 4 is similar to the hardware found in personal computers" - a bit vague. I'm sure all PCs are different!
  • "This familiarity should make it easier and less expensive for game studios to develop games for the PS4" - this is also vague and unclear, and sounds like a bit of risky original research
  • "with similar price drops in other SE Asian markets" - south-east shouldn't be abbreviated
  • "Its read-only optical drive is capable of reading Blu-ray Discs at speeds of up to three times that of the PS3's" - might sound better as of its predecessor
  • "It includes a non-removable, rechargeable battery" - no need for the comma here
  • "Sony also took steps to make it easier for indie game developers to publish titles for the PS4" - I don't think this is descriptive enough

References[edit]

On hold[edit]

I'll leave this on hold for the standard seven days. I'll be happy to leave it on hold for longer if needed. Once all of the above are out of the way, I'll take another look at the article. Overall though, it appears very solid and GA-worthy. Good article on hold JAGUAR  19:58, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

@Gamingforfun365: I think the final two points could be addressed by simply removing them if they can't be elaborated. To me they sound like original research and something an IP wrote a long time ago. JAGUAR  11:05, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
The sentences were changed. One of them says "...modern personal computers.", and the other says "The familiarity is designed to...". Is that okay, or must they be removed altogether? Gamingforfun365 (talk) 17:20, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
That should be OK. I've checked over the article once more and I can determine that this meets the GA criteria now. Well done! Good article JAGUAR  18:20, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Instrument of terror[edit]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/11/14/why-the-paris-isis-terrorists-used-ps4-to-plan-attacks/

Widely reported in the press. Worth a mention here? Hcobb (talk) 01:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Do other sources report on it besides this one? Forbes "contributors" are sources we try to avoid. (They're not the same as being a full-fledged writer for Forbes.) Sergecross73 msg me 03:19, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

A few refs...

None of these are reliable sources? Hcobb (talk) 15:44, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

I've reverted the inclusion of the content as presented here. I've got some objections.
  1. One, sources like the ones above seem to say things like "could have been used" or end their sentences with question marks. (Did they use PS4s?" type stuff.) Is it confirmed or just a theory.
  2. I don't believe presenting it in a dedicated section, containing one sentence, called "instrument of terror" is a good choice. Strikes me as WP:NPOV and WP:UNDUE issues, especially considering where things fall on point number one above.

I've notified the Video Games WikiProject on handling this, as I'm sure this will be a recurring thing, and it may warrant inclusion, but not quite like this... Sergecross73 msg me 16:19, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Here's a source that is discussing a number of sources and their issues. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-11-16-sony-responds-to-claim-ps4-used-for-terrorist-communications Sergecross73 msg me 16:37, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Wouldn't this rather fit on PSN's article anyway? Its not indicative of the hardware or the console at all. Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 16:42, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Coming from WT:VG, I would say that first, if this is included it is a PSN issue, not a PS4. But more importantly, this is speculation: they had a PS4 and they used it to send messages to other PSN users, that seems firm, but it does prove that PSN was the only way and/or responsible for it. That PSN is mostly unmonitored, that could be a valid point of criticism to say on the PSN, but the Paris attacks should not be used as the only justification for that if it hasnt' been proven out yet. --MASEM (t) 17:38, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
I haven't seen any direct links to Paris and have not suggested it be mentioned. Also blaming PlayStation Network would be original research on our part as the sources all say PS4. Hcobb (talk) 18:04, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
  1. PSN is mentioned in one of the very sources you presented yourself. Its even in the link itself. (http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/619722/ISIS-Terrorist-Attack-Paris-Sony-Playstation-4-PSN)
  2. I don't believe there's a way to communicate between PS4's without using PSN. (Unless they were linked locally like you could do with some systems in the old days...but I don't think they're talking about people communicating between PS4's in the same room, if that's even possible anymore.) Sergecross73 msg me 18:43, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

End result: turns out they just used unencrypted text messages. The PS4 connection was a nonsense rumor, sparked by crummy journalism connecting something a Belgian minister had said a few days before the attacks. --PresN 00:56, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Please remove 4k as a supported output resolution, max resolution is 1080p[edit]

The PS4 does not currently support 4k resolution for any media, images, or games.

Search "4K" on Sony's Ultimate FAQ (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/30/ps4-the-ultimate-faq-north-america/)

It says that 4k resolution for media support is under consideration. The PS4 has no option to select 4k as a resolution in its display settings, and attempts to play 4k video from a USB stick will fail, meaning it can't even downsample 4k content to 1080p.

While the hardware could support 4k movie/image output, there is no support in the media player, netflix/amazon apps, or games for 4k. TheThirdStrike (talk) 23:59, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

The above source (and others) say the PS4 is capable of 4K resolution for some forms of media, but not games. Our article qualifies this statement adequately. — TPX 07:29, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Intruductory Price in Japan missing[edit]

What r u thinking?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.72.218.142 (talkcontribs)

Right in the History section, it pretty plainly states " The PS4 released in Japan at ¥39,980 on February 22, 2014.[29]". Did you not read this far or something? Sergecross73 msg me 19:41, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

It misses in the oversight box. Can u just follow your own rules, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.72.218.142 (talk) 11:55, 9 January 2016‎ (UTC)

SO???STILL NOT DONE; STUPID WIKIPEDIA JERKS. NO MONEY FOR YOU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.72.218.142 (talk) 10:30, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Well, I don't know what "misses in the oversight box" is supposed to mean, nor do I follow how I'm not "following my own rules". You're writing so sloppily that you're not making any sense... Sergecross73 msg me 13:34, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Going to guess it means overview, as in the infobox, and that they meant that we normally write that kind of thing in the infobox but didn't in this case.--IDVtalk 14:01, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

JUST AN ARROGANT ANSWER? REALLY? BUT STILL NOT CHANGED! CHANGE/INSERT IT EVERYWHERE AT EVERY CONSOLE EVER!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.72.218.142 (talk) 16:55, 13 January 2016‎ (UTC)

Personally, I was partially waiting to see if you'd clarify/confirm what it is you're requesting, and partially waiting to see if maybe there's a reason why its not listed there. It could be an oversight, or there could be some reason like it was decided only English-language countries would have their price listed or something like that. Sergecross73 msg me 17:11, 13 January 2016 (UTC)