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Oppose I feel that the lists article fails WP:NOTCHANGELOG. Even if it didn't, it would only be a matter of time before it became too large for this article and had to be forked out again. The lists article is also biased, it only lists North American titles, no mention of Europe, Japan and other regions. - X201 (talk) 17:57, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
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As of a recent firmware update, the network is no longer called "PlayStation Network" in full. Its official name is simply "PSN" (just like what began its life as the Imagine Games Network is now, and has been for years, known simply as "IGN"). 184.108.40.206 (talk) 03:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
PSN is just initials and the current name is still the most common. When this changes the issue should be looked at again. At the moment i see no reason to move to a less common and descriptive set of initials than keeping the name they stand for.
Can you prove the name has been changed anyway? Thanks ツ Jenova20(email) 08:14, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
As I said, it became official as of the most recent PS3 firmware update. This has the text that accompanied that update. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 20:15, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Since PlayStation Network is still the most common name, Sony is using both names, and since PSN stands for PlayStation Network, i'd suggest leaving it as is. If they had changed the name completely like when the Android Market became the Google Play Store, then i'd be pushing for a change too. Thanks ツ Jenova20(email) 15:41, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Removing it isn't the right thing to do. That's what the talk page is for. For everything that is Sony, this is contextually the most correct place for now. Mnemnoch (talk) 16:48, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Because this event is still unfolding, I have removed detail of the outage from our section detailing the history of the PlayStaton Network. The information has not been deleted but rather moved elsewhere on the same page (just below the section detailing PSN's availability). In one sense, everything by definition can be regarded as history. The introduction of a new service, once launched, can be regarded as history. I don't see why you are so keen to promote this material to the history section so rapidly, only here on this article, and no place else. — TPX 17:12, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
The History section lists the 2011 Attack and Outage. If you move this section, that section needs to be moved as well. But, as you can see, it's been where it's been for quite some time. Mnemnoch (talk) 17:09, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Personally, I would prefer to see all internet downtime removed from the history section. Similar incidents have occurred before and are likely to happen again. Are we to document every such occurrence under history as soon as they happen? It would be nice to hear what other editors have to say on this issue. — TPX 17:30, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
I agree. I'd like to get consensus as the occurrence of an outage is frequent. This outage, however, is the longest outage in 2014 if memory serves correct. Mnemnoch (talk) 18:55, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Go blog about it, not add it here. The previous attacks leaked information and lasted for a long period. A DDoS attack isn't either of these.--Vaypertrail (talk) 20:10, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
My sentiments exactly. Dbrodbeck (talk) 22:18, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
I disagree. I mean how many DDoS attacks can you think of that made national headlines? This story was all over the news. Anything with that much media attention needs to be here. It's part of PSN's notability. Sarujo (talk) 04:24, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
Will it be important in a couple of months? Dbrodbeck (talk) 04:27, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
I remain curious to know why some editors seem less interested in collaborating to create a central article describing these industry-wide attacks than they are in only adding information about them to a single page (i.e. PlayStation Network). Nobody seems to be in a rush to expand Xbox Live or Steam with the same news. Observe how Xbox Live coverers the disastrous 2007 Xmas disruption, when Microsoft's service was interrupted for over a week  consequently facing lawsuits from angry customers.  That outage is described in less than 100 words with no special subheadings or separate article. I'm in favour of mentioning the most recent service disruption, because the attacks are notable, but I think our starting point should be a separate article that we can summarise and link to. My view is that matters should be treated contextually and equally for all affected services. We have a new article on Lizard Squad that is in very poor shape at the moment. That could do with more eyes. — TPX 13:32, 27 December 2014 (UTC)