Talk:Playing with Fire (Paula Seling and Ovi song)

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Name[edit]

Shouldn't the name of the song be "Playing with Fire"? --12345abcxyz20082009 (talk) 12:12, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Paparazzzi (talk · contribs) 05:35, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and intro[edit]

  • The following single, "Calling You (Hello, Hello)", was the next single by both artists?
Yes, it was. Cartoon network freak (talk) 10:16, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The lyrics of "Playing with Fire" portray a fight between a male and a female, with a reviewer speculating that they revolved around arson,"→ Change to it, since the sentence is about the fight
 Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 10:16, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In Athens, the singers qualified for the Grand Final, where they finished third with 162 points." You mentioned above that the Eurovision contest took place in Oslo, Norway, and Athens is located in Greece...
 Done I'm sorry; this was a leftover from my other Eurovision GAN, as I use the same structure for all related articles. Cartoon network freak (talk) 10:16, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Commercially, the track charted within the top 30 in Belgium, Finland"→ Ommit Belgium, since the song charted only on the Ultratip chart, which is not the main chart
 Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 10:16, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Filmed in Alba Iulia, Sebeş and Vienna,..." I feel like you should include the countries instead of the cities
 Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 10:16, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have a lot of questions regarding the release date. The only known release date is for the Finnish CD, what about the Swedish and Romanian CDs? And how did you verify the date for the Finnish CD? I'm asking because I can't verify it with that source
I have used this to determine which CDs were released and when they were released. I'm not sure if it's a reliable source, though, is it? Cartoon network freak (talk) 10:16, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Cartoon network freak: Mmm, the thing with Discogs is that anybody can edit it. I mean, since the site offers the photos with the release code, tracklisting and format, you can use them, but the photos don't show the release date. I was searching on iTunes and I found that the Fly Djs remix and the Karaoke version are the only singles (both were released on 24 May 2010). I would recommend then to state that 24 May 2010 is the release date in the infobox, to include those two releases on the Background and Release history sections, and to ommit the Finnish release date.--Paparazzzi (talk) 18:56, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Paparazzzi: Thank you for doing a research on the matter, but I don't think the release date of these two items is really relevant to the article, as none of these are the original track. I have resumed the Finnish release date to just 2010, and I think that this should remain as the single's release date in the infobox. The single just wasn't released in its original form for digital download (apart from the Eurovision 2010 compilation which is something else) and we don't have the dates for the CD releases. Cartoon network freak (talk) 20:00, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Background and release[edit]

  • The sample's description says, "a song party influenced..."→ change to partly
 Done Error. Cartoon network freak (talk) 10:17, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "while lyrics were written by Romanian singer and songwriter Ovidiu Cernăuțeanu. The latter met Romanian singer Paula Seling at a Romanian song festival..."
 Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 10:17, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is there any information about the winner of the remix contest?
Sadly, no. It maybe be Fly DJ's who won the contest as their remix was used for CD singles, but that may be untrue. Cartoon network freak (talk) 10:17, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reception and accolades[edit]

  • Daily Mirror is mentioned as only Mirror. Why?
 Done Fixed Cartoon network freak (talk) 11:28, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • " Carlos Otero from the website called the song..." I think it would be better to change the sentence to "Editor Carlos Otero called the song..." to avoid repetition with the word website
 Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 11:28, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Music video[edit]

  • Beginning with 18 March 2010→ Beginning on 18 March 2010
 Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 11:31, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Special effects were edited by specialists from multiple European countries, assisted by Cristian "Freespace" Ciocotisan." I don't understand, what did Cristian Ciocotisan assit? the special effects, the specialists?
 Done He assisted the specialists. I have changed the sentence a tiny bit. Cartoon network freak (talk) 11:31, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

At Eurovision[edit]

  • "Seling and Ovi's win was contested by Romanian singer Luminița Anghel". Is there any known reason to why this lady was not happy with their win?
Probably beacuse she simply thought her performance was better, there's no other reason supported by the sources. Cartoon network freak (talk) 11:32, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

 Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 11:35, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm currently verifying the rest of the sources, it wouldn't take me too much time. Regards. --Paparazzzi (talk) 05:35, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Paparazzzi: Many thanks for your review so far! I have worked on and responded to all your comments. Cartoon network freak (talk) 11:35, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Cartoon network freak: the Finnish chart link does not work. I have verified the rest of the sources and they cover the assertions made on this article. Just ping me when you have solved the Finnish chart issue and I will promote the article. Regards and congratulations for the good job, --Paparazzzi (talk) 03:26, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Paparazzzi: It seems like this was a mistake, as the single did not chart at all in Finland (thus the link was not working). I've removed it altogether. Thanks for the review; I have nominated multiple Eurovision-related articles for GAN, so I'm obviously happy that someone found time for this. Best regards; Cartoon network freak (talk) 06:17, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Since my comments have been addressed, I'm promoting this article to GA. @Cartoon network freak: Congratulations! Regards, --Paparazzzi (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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