Talk:Pokémon Red and Blue

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"Released in Japan as...Red and Green"[edit]

This statement is false- There are some significant differences between Japanese Green and Red versions and non-Japan Red and Blue. The sprites for the monsters differ, the "dungeons" (tunnels, caves) have slightly different layouts, among other things. Additionally, Blue version was released in Japan, after Red and Green, and is closer to non-Japan Red and Blue. It would be technically more correct to say Pokemon Red and Blue was released as Pocket Monsters Blue in Japan... — Preceding unsigned comment added by -Special:Contributions/ (User talk:-) 22:37, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Some of this is already mentioned further down in the article. Really, I don't think the statement needs changing - JP Green/Red and international Red/Blue are essentially the same game, with some modifications in the later versions.--IDVtalk 23:35, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

There was also a change in the Lavender Town music to make the tones a bit less harsher. I think this should be mentioned, but don't make the mistake of talking about the rumor about suicides it caused (I've listened to a little bit of the original, and I'm not dead, am I?). It really was an important change in the games, since it sparked so many rumors. Awesomeyveltal (talk) 23:24, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

If reliable sources exist that discuss this change in the music, then it certainly can be included in the localization commentary of the article. Otherwise, if there are no sources, then we can't include it. Artichoker[talk] 23:30, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

European release date[edit]

I couldn’t help noticing just now that the infobox currently lists Blue as being released 4 months before Red in Europe. This seems highly unlikely, and the sources provided for the release dates don’t provide any evidence that the two games were released at different times from each other in Europe.

That said, the sources given do disagree with each other about when the pair of games were released; the Pokémon website shows “10 June 1999”[1] while Nintendo’s UK website shows “05/10/1999” for both games[2][3] (that is, October 5 if one assumes it’s in the European format).

So it seems plausible that there was a typo and a misread date format somewhere along the line on one of the websites, but after a quick Google search and a use of the Wayback Machine I haven’t found particularly clear evidence of which is correct. In any case, the information in the infobox clearly needs to be changed, I’m just not at all sure what it needs to be changed to. —MTC (talk) 16:28, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

In the UK both Red and Blue were released simultaneously. I've checked several magazine archives. Nintendo World (a UK magazine) list the UK release date as October 8, 1999 (Friday) which corresponds with the October 5, 1999 (Tuesday) listed on the Nintendo UK website. The October release date is also supported by coverage in other UK video game magazines that I've checked, so I'm certain that the June release date is incorrect. --The1337gamer (talk) 19:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

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Not a Red/Blue screenshot[edit]

I don't think the Red/Blue versions were ever in color. They were strictly black and white. I have a copy of my own and even when I play it on a GBC, it looks like the typical gray/brown look. This looks like a Pokémon Yellow screenshot. It may not matter. But I thought I should say something.PercyPropa (talk) 21:48, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

The screenshot with the battle between Bulbasaur and Charmander is definitely from Pokémon Yellow. I think it should be changed. Actually, I just checked and it's not Pokémon Yellow. The screenshot seems to be colorized, though. Should it be replaced with a screenshot with the correct colors? Dino10 (talk) 17:25, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
I ended up changing it. The colors were indeed wrong, even though the sprites were from Pokémon Red. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dino10 (talkcontribs) 19:37, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
The colours were correct, they were the ones used when the game is played through a Super Gameboy or Nintendo 64. The current screenshot is from when the game is played on a Gameboy Color, using one of the preset mono-colour palettes, which I don't think is necessarily any more accurate. Spinrad (talk) 03:08, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
I decided to revert the screenshot to the previous one: I feel that the SGB/N64 colour palette is more well known than the red one, which is simply the default GBC colour palette for Red (not Blue). Also I think the colour version helps to better differentiate Bulbasaur from Charmander to the layman, given the screenshot is quite small. Spinrad (talk) 07:32, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
That's not what it looks like on Gameboy Color. The original Gameboy is gray, the red tint is what you see when you play it on a GBC. I even double checked this just now on my own Gameboy Color, it's not in color. 23:47, 9 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dino10 (talkcontribs)
No it isn't what it looks like on the GBC, nor did I claim it was. Once again, the full-colour version of the screenshot is what is seen on the Super-Gameboy, Nintendo 64, and emulators, and is probably the most common way the game has been viewed over the years. The second most common way would arguably be in black and white on the pre-colour Gameboy models. That red colour palette is just a preset that Pokemon Red defaults to when used in a GBC, on top of that the palette can be changed, with Pokemon Blue using a different default palette. The red palette is one of the less common ways that the game has been viewed and for that reason is not as good for illustrating the article, especially considering that the full-colour version helps to better differentiate the two figures in the screenshot.Spinrad (talk) 03:03, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
The image should represent the original game, not how it looks on emulators. It shows the original color palette in most common emulators, by the way. It's impossible that this is the "most common way" the game has been viewed, because it doesn't look like that on the original console, only on Nintendo 64 and SNES adapters. Dino10 (talk) 23:15, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Most emulators as far as I know default to either the greyscale palette or SGB colours, I've never come across one that uses the built in GBC palettes for original GB games, at least not by default. The thing is, even if the SGB palette isn't the most common way the game has been seen, there's no way the default hardware GBC palette for Pokemon Red is either. Once you subtract the people who played the game on the original Gameboy/Pocket, the 3DS, the GBC using a different palette, Pokemon Blue, and most emulators, you're not left with even a plurality of people. So it's either going to have to go back to the SGB palette (which is a legitimate palette, and never needed to be changed in the first place, especially with no consensus), or we're going to have to compromise and use the greyscale palette. Spinrad (talk) 04:29, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

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