Talk:Pokémon Red and Blue/Archive 1

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Color Images

Why are the images in the article in color when red/blue were released on gameboy not gameboy color? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.131.184 (talk) 16:02, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

If you put the pokemon red/blue cartridge into a super game boy, a super nintendo cartridge made to play game boy games on your SNES, than they game is in full color. the color scheme used is the same as the one used later in Pokemon Yellow. most likely, the screens are from the super gameboy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.189.255.148 (talk) 04:59, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Merge

Fire Red/Leaf Green

There was a merge suggestion for FireRed/LeafGreen and Red/Blue. I say NO WAY!!! They are from different generations and aren't the same. FR/LG has imporved gameplay.71.74.0.106 01:02, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I say merge the articles! They are the same game! I put the template there!--XD375 21:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I think it is a bad idea. --Philip1992 16:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)Philip1992

A terrible one, I agree. There's already been so much information loss from the previous merges, there'd be nothing left! ~ Flameviper 22:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
There's been too much merging already. Like for the glitches, everyone hears about them, but they don't know anything else. When each glitch had its own page, they would tell you how and why they worked. Merging eliminates valuable info. ~Frank

I'm going to use the words of my grandpa on this one. No. Hell, no? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.11.33.144 (talkcontribs) .

Which articles? Green and Red/Blue? I'd support the merging of those, as they're similar enough. EllipsesBent 23:36, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Of course. Why not merge them? If you feel some information would be lost, then it won't be removed. We don't have individual articles for Red and Blue, why for Green? Makes no sense. DanPMK 17:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it's a need.(shawny_1234567 07:54, 13 January 2007 (UTC))

Its another game and it got extra's wich Pokemon Red and Blue Doesn't got. And the Release Date too is other. (Dennis 13:59, 5 Februari(ECT))

I say don't merge. It's got enough new information to warrant its own article. Hurball 10:39, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I do not want to merge these articles. They are NOT THE SAME GAME, XD375. Bartman1776 01:16, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

NO MERGING I was looking forward to the glitch articles and they wer merged already =(. Merging is not a good process since information will be usually lost. Dar book 10:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Merge!? I think not! They aren't the same! Think of it like Kirby's Adventure being merged with Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland! Not the same! (Crystalespeon 15:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC))

Dont Merge that shouldnt even be a thought. Salavat 00:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

They are entirely seperate games. No, don't merge it. N-Denizen 13:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Do not merge. Why on Earth would you merge completely different games that came years apart? Before you decide that two things are similar enough to merge, you should know the subject material well. You clearly don't, so don't suggest stupid merges like this. --74.120.213.177 05:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Do not merge This is a ridiculous suggestion. Anyone who knows anything about these games would know this. 72.75.14.117 19:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Don't Merge Let me get this straight Yellow is not the same as Red and Blue because it was made to be like the anime. Fire Red and Leaf Green were made with new features. Ok, you got this now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.64.18.118 (talk) 17:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Don't merge. Definitely different games. Bifgis 04:26, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't Merge Why don't we merge Sonic 2006 with the original, too? >_> 24.154.215.71 20:25, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't Merge I agree with the "Sonic 2006" comment, this makes no sence, unless all Pokémon articles are merged into one! Doktor Wilhelm 23:35, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't Merge It is a different game. It is based on the animae and you don't choose from 3 starter Pokemon like Red/Blue/Green. Listen to these people. Dylanlip 12:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Do Not Merge:18 people Merge:3 people

If 16 people don't vote Merge in one week, I will pull the Merge template on both pages. If you do get 16 people to put Merge on here in a week, then we will continue Merge discussion. It seriously looks like the Merge discussion will end. Not many people want it to be merged. Dylanlip 12:35, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

DON'T MERGE. You must not know much about pokemon, XD375. POKEMON RED/BLUE AND FIRERED/LEAFGREEN ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT GAMES! I hate how the separate page for pokemon glitches got erased! Not only did it tell you how to start the glitch, It showed you how they worked, too!71.186.183.253 02:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

In regards to the glitches, instructions for "starting" a glitch is part of why it was deleted. --Stratadrake 13:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I say do not merge the articles as they are different games--Striderdan 19:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

No Merge. They really are different games. Mack-the-random (talk) 21:28, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

PLEASE DON'T MERGE THEM. Philip1992 (talk) 19:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)Philip1992

I can see why some people would want to merge them. I propose that we merge the games, but have different sections within the article to point out differences. Sort of like a Combination Section; Red/Blue Section; Green Section; Yellow Section; Fire Red/Leaf Green Section. I understand that they are not the same game, but they are the same sroyline, with FR/LG just having an extra bit thrown in the end.--TriCheeseSorrow (talk) 04:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Pokémon Yellow

I don't think we should merge Yellow into Red/Blue --Putrid76 21:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

  • NO! --Fixman (talk) 17:32, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

No Philip1992 (talk) 19:28, 23 November 2007 (UTC)Philip1992

No Merge. Mack-the-random (talk) 16:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Image

The image of Red's box is uncouth at best. Somebody should upload a better version. -WindFish

i think its fineVoldpotter 14:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)voldpotter

GRR! Red and Blue ARE the SAME GAME. Green is totally different. As is Yellow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.177.99.152 (talk) 16:07, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

WTF @ release dates

Red and Blue were not released in 2005. I know they must have been released in 1996 or so; can someone verify what month and day? Hbdragon88 03:17, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes. Red and Green were released in Japan on February 27, 1996 and in the United States on September 28, 1998 under the name of "Red and Blue" instead of "Red and Green". -- Daverocks 23:54, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

They mean firered and leafgreen,the remake of the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.197.184 (talk) 04:41, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah the JP Red and Green were released in 95 then in 96 they released thier counterpart Blue.They were then later released as the AM/EN version as Red and Blue. And a few years after that they too had a counterpart released,namely Pokemon Yellow.Man I miss these games they are classic,I think Nintendo should go back to making the old classics because they were the best.User:Agent008

United States link

Why is the link to the United States in this article red as if it is broken? It is spelt correctly, and it just takes you to the editing page for the US. Seems like a bug in the MediaWiki software or something similar. -- Daverocks 23:56, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Never mind, seems to be fine now. Weird. -- Daverocks 13:15, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Link-Up Capabilites

I reorganised the different sections on trading into one 'Link-Up Capabilities' section...And mentioned the Colosseum battling function via the link cable as well. I felt that this would bring a less scattered feel to this section of the article: I hope I was correct. Barnabat 10:36, 14 January 2006 (UTC) yes I believe a gameboy can use a link cable,<At least game boy color>.I own one it's purple, my friend found a teal on the street,and it works.By the way gameboy are more durable than DS so are PSP systems,my other friend lost his game boy color at the airport on the way home from St. Lucia(a kid stole it).One of my friends has two and original gameboy,one of my friends gave his away.

Version-specific Pokémon

I've recently added a new section listing the version-specific Pokémon. I'm not sure if it should be a new section, or if it should be a subsection of Gameplay or Link-Up Capabilities. I'd appreciate it if someone could suggest where it should go. Plume 02:17, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Box Art

I removed one of the box art images, it looks silly having both in the info box. Gerard Foley 10:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't see why that's needed though - both games are quite notable in their regard and by the game name should still be there. --Anthony Jake La (Tetsuya-san; talk : contribs) 10:16, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Japanese Blue and Green versions...

I suggest merging the Green page with this one, as the Green version is the japanese counterpart of the english blue version. Also, further information on the japanese Blue would be welcome :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.251.215.174 (talkcontribs) .

I came here to suggest that, but it seems you already have. I'll try to put the template on if I can.--XD375 16:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
They are completely different games, in Japan, Blue was a special edition. Highway Return to Oz... 10:48, 22 July 2006 (UTC)The green already came out in japan and america.

Subliminal Messages

It says here that it was banned in Saudi Arabia, but I see nothing bout this....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_computer_games —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.181.118.123 (talkcontribs) . There is a difference between subliminal and flashy.

Actually, to my knowledge, the entire franchise is banned in Saudi Arabia due to pressure from the Muslim religion, and how Pokémon conflicts with their ideals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.97.155 (talk) 01:47, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Were glitches fixed, or not?

Various glitches were fixed, and the graphics were redone. These graphics would be used in the English release of Red and Blue, however the glitches and mechanics found in Red and Green were not fixed or changed.

Umm, were any glitches fixed? Personally I haven't played the original Red/Green to know. 202.7.202.2 08:12, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

This is one of the reasons a merge would be nice. Then we could have a better glitch comparison.--XD375 00:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I know of 1 glitch that was fixed. In Japanese R/G, you could hit SELECT on the 7th item in your bag, then get into a battle, and hit select on a move. Once you won the battle, your POKEMON would hit LV100. Sabre Knight 13:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC) STRANGELY ENOUGH I'VE PLAYED RED AND NEVER HAD ANY GLITCHES.

Yeah, almost every glitch has been fixed, since it's on the Ruby/Sapphire engine. No Missingno. trick, no Mew Trick, no Glitch City (you can't save in Safari Zone). The truck's still there, though... and you can get a Lava Cookie from it. -K2JMan 02:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

No, he means in the English Red/Blue, not FR/LG. And the answer is no, nonsensically enough. They use Midori's graphics AND Cerulean Cave and they manage not to fix the infamous glitches.—Loveはドコ? (talkcontribs) 02:46, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Wrong. The English Red/Blue in fact have MORE glitches than Japanese Red/Green. Surfing on the Cinnabar Island or Seafoam Island coastline using a legitimate Japanese cartridge won't trigger any wild Pokemon battles. Therefore, all cheats and tricks requiring the use of surf at those locations do not work on Japanese games. Theclaw1 10:17, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Possible merge idea

It's obvious we only need one article for Green, Red, and Blue, both Japanese and American. So, perhaps all the articles could be merged into something like First generation Pokémon video games or some other name anyone can think of. Even if the name doesn't change, definately merge Green with this one. DanPMK 11:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I really don't know how it got turned down...it's the exact same thing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.32.87.146 (talkcontribs) .

Blue was a special edition in Japan. Green was never released in America. I don't support the idea.(Crystalespeon 18:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC))

ROM Hacking Section

I think it would be a good idea to put a ROM hacking section on this page, since Pokemon hacking seems to be very popular. Would that be ok if I added it? Koolboyman 22:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

It might fit better over at Pokémon (video games) as a subsection of the bootlegs section. :) --Sparky Lurkdragon 23:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

does anyone know that hacking is illegal!

No hacking is not illegal, as long as you dont sell the game and you have the game you are hacking

External Link

I just readded the link to "IGN Guide to Pokémon: Blue and Red" (<http://guides.ign.com/guides/16708/>). It had been deleted by Ryulong, because he said the external links looked like spam. This Web site is not spam. It has a complete listing of Pokemon in the Pokedex, techniques, types of Pokemon, items, TMs and HMs, and so on. I think it's a useful, quality link and should stay in the article. If there are any comments on this, leave them here. I had asked Ryulong about his reasoning, but he failed to respond.

Chris Dubey 21:18, 13 August 2006 (UTC) I agree ign is a good web site.

Release Date

All the sources I found put the game's US release in September 1998 but the article says it was on the 30th, Daverocks above says it was the 28th and Nintendo puts it at the 1st... Which is it? --Sonic Mew 23:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I would trust nintendo.
Agreed. I had a similar comment at the end of this page and I changed the date yet it was changed back. I'm convinced Nintendo has the date right since it is there game and many other sources are unclear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.110.137.50 (talkcontribs)

I am going to change the release date to sep. 29 98 having recently found a old sneak preview from youtube. I am also putting it under sources.

mergeing .4 with article

.4 includes the same information that Pokemon Red and Blue have in the glitches section--Balloonguy 23:44, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

  • It doesnt exist anymore? O_o Ash link 23:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

it was subject to deletion and got deleted --Balloonguy 21:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Proposed Merge.

Please use this space to discuss the proposal to merge the articles Pokémon Red and Blue and Pokémon Green. I suggest this merge for the following reasons:

  • Although technically different versions, the games themselves are near identical in everything but name. They are simply regional variations.
  • The article for Pokémon Green article contains little worthy of note that is not already included in the Red/Blue articles - the content is a near copy. Any version specific information is short and can easily be part of the main article.
  • Pokémon Red and Blue has been assessed by Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer and Video Games to be an article of Top importance, one of only 38 in this project, due to the fact it started a multi-billion franchise. However, Pokémon Green is intrinsically linked with the initiation of this series, but should instead be listed with Red/Blue.
  • From what I understand, previous merge requests have simply resulted in the template being deleted with no proper discussion. The time is now right for a proper vote to be proposed.

Please do not delete the template until this discussion is concluded.
--Mouse Nightshirt 17:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Voting

  • Support — For above reasons. Mouse Nightshirt 17:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Support — For above reasons, and that one R/B/G article would avoid ambiguity that we'd have with anything other than one article for Pokemon Red, one for Pokemon Blue, and one each for the three as Pocket Monsters Red/Blue/Green. EllipsesBent 21:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Support — Why do we even have separate articles? It isn't a Gold/Silver-Crystal relationship, it's a Gold-Silver relationship. Red, Blue, and Green are minor tweaks of the same core game. Yellow has some very minor plot differences, and could possibly be a good candidate to merge here, too. This would get us a fast-track article to WP 1.0, and then it could go to GA and later FA review. «TTV»(talk|contribs|email) 04:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose To be honest I think all 3 games should have their own article because they're different. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnathan Love (talkcontribs) 07:16, 4 January 2007
  • Support Problem is, they areally aren't. They're almost identical. DanPMK 09:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Support the merge but mention that JP Red/Green had slightly different sprites. --Libertyernie2 18:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Support if I remember right, they came out at almost exactly the same time. Cheers to 2007! User:Sp3000 10:32, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Actually, Red and Green first came out in Japan with a lot of glitches and crappy sprites. Blue came out afterwards, with better sprites and all the glitches fixed. Then Yellow came out, based on the anime.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:26, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Support - For the above reasons, as long as the differences between the games are mentioned.Ultraflame 23:27, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Support, but oppose merge with Yellow version. bibliomaniac15 02:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose - R/B should be together. Green is sorta different, but then if we merged we'd have to insert categories about differences, right? Too looong. (Crystalespeon 18:14, 4 September 2007 (UTC))
  • Oppose - Agreed with above; R/B should be together, but Green is different enough to merit it's own page. 72.75.14.117 19:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose Indefinitely. Agreed with above. Mack-the-random (talk) 16:29, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Designer

The designer of the game is said to be Ken Sugimori in the article, but I think this would be Satoshi Tajiri. Sugimori was the lead designer of the characters and monsters, but the overal concept of the game was created by Tajiri. See the credits. - Face 13:40, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.215.28.120 (talkcontribs).

Australia release date

I was wondering what was the release date for these version and if possible, do that for the other generations since I think Australia must be added as they too have been involved in the video game industry as well as US and Japan. Willbender 08:31, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Game Boy Color

They were released for the Game Boy Color. That's where the displayed pictures come from. 67.188.172.165 21:54, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Pokemon Red and Blue were released for the Game Boy, not the Color..(Crystalespeon 21:17, 5 September 2007 (UTC))

The Pokémon games (and many others for the GB) had a preset pallette so that it would display in color if played on a GBC. Just read the Game Boy Color page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.97.155 (talk) 01:52, 27 September 2007 (UTC)