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France, like many country (including Spain, a number of former colonies, and until recently Belgium), possess two main police force, a civil one, the Police Nationale, focused on big aglomeration, and a military one, the Gendarmerie. They each have geographic competency over their own non overlapping areas of the french territory, wiht the first one having competency over roughly half the population and 5% of the territory (but including all the big cities), while the other one has competency on, well, what's left.
However, only the Police Nationale is mentionned in the Wikipedia page. I wonder if the reason for such an omission might be because, as a part of the French Military, the Gendarmerie uses the same ranks as the other componants of the French Military, while Police Nationale ranks are both more specific and a bit more messy (as the realtion between the Officer corp and the Commissaire corp is not a strict hierarchic one).
Though, in an absence of any voices raised against it, I'm going to do what was done for the Spain section and add the Gendarmerie ranks to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 22:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Reasons for tagging the article as "confusing"
I'm in no way expert on the subject, but I would think, as probably other common readers, that "rank" is not "ranking", even in the context of police language; more precisely that while "ranking" means "system of grading" (as a noun) or "assigning a grade" (as a verb), the term "rank" in itself is just a synonym of grade. Any clarification would be welcome. If my perception is right, then this article defines "ranking", not "rank" and we should rename it (at least). --Gennaro Prota 19:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
I would like to see it updated as something more specific, probably retitled and with a new introduction. Also, this isn't a list, it's really a category and should be defined as such, shouldn't it be? TaylorSAllen 02:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I think some discussion should be on general ranks of policemen - officer, corporal, sergeant, lieutenant, captain, etc. --AW 21:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
UK Police Rank Insignia
I am no expert in this area but it would appear that the rank insignia displayed for Comissioner and Deputy Comissioner in the UK police section are the wrong way round. The lower rank shows two pips while the higher rank shows only one. This goes against the logical progression of "more pips/stars/crowns/wreaths" etc signifying a higher rank....? Can anyone confirm/correct? ColourSarge 11:20, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I know, it seems hard to believe that the Deputy Commissioner has the rank insignia of a Deputy Chief Constable, Inspector and a Superintendent when the Commissioner only has the insignia of a Deputy Chief Constable and a Superintendent with 1 of the Inspector's Order of the Bath's. This is right and is confirmed in this image I found whilst searching the net.. showing former Commissioner Lord Stevens with former PM Tony Blair wearing his uniform confirming the insignia of the Met Police Commissioner: . -- PoliceChief (talk) 18:30, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Law Enforcement Scientist
The anonymous user 18.104.22.168 re-added the following after I removed it:
- Law Enforcement Scientist/Law Enforcement Rate Equation: Someone with significant scientific ideas on how to make improvements to the law enforcement system. Physics equation that describes the law enforcement system as a double sided justice system consisting of both a heroic justice system and a criminal justice system for when people do things both right and wrong. Insignia: look for the scientific equation and look for more intelligent police officers. A law enforcement scientist is concerned with the law enforcement system as a whole including more than one community whereas a police chief is concerned with more locally the immediate police department and immediate community.
The whole section is nonsensical and has nothing to do with police ranks in the US. Could the contributor please state a rationale why this section should be kept? Otherwise I will remove it again. Thank you. – Adrian Lozano (talk) 22:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Agree with Adrian Lozano, passage is nonsensical and it does not have anything to do with US police ranks. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 16:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Colonel & Major
a) I recommend to delete the whole section and give just basic information instead. As Germany has 17 different Police agencies (1 federal and 16 of each state), the comparison of ranks or funcions is not plausible.
b) German "Kommissar" was translated as "commissioner", but is not equal to the English term.
c) Facing military cooperation in international missions, following equivalents were used or are being used:
Polizei(ober-,haupt-)meister - Sergeant;
(Polizei)Kommissar - Lieutenant; (Polizei)Oberkommissar - (First) Lieutenant; (Polizei)Hauptkommissar - (Police) Captain; Erster (Polizei)Hauptkommissar - (Senior)Captain;
Polizeirat - (Police) Major; Polizeioberrat - (Police) LtCol; Polizeidirektor - (Police) Colonel; Lt. Polizeidirektor - (Police) Colonel
d) List of German Police Ranks (in general) from lowest to highest (Police officers of investigations department, similar to detectives, are named "Kriminal-" instead of "Polizei-" in their respective ranks; only trained police officers can join ID via further training - no candidate rank in ID)
Polizeimeisteranwärter (=candidate rank); Polizeimeister; Polizeiobermeister; Polizeihauptmeister; Polizeihauptmeister (mit Zulage)
Polizeikommissaranwärter (=candidate rank); Polizeikommissar; Polizeioberkommissar; Polizeihauptkommissar; Erster Polizeihauptkommissar
Polizeiratanwärter(=candidate rank); Polizeirat; Polizeioberrat; Polizeidirektor; Leitender Polizeidirektor;
Highest ranking staff (equivalent to Generals)
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