Talk:Polonophile

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Silesia[edit]

The following text After World War II, the whole of Upper Silesia and German Lower Silesia were assigned to Poland in accordance with the Potsdam Agreement. To this day Silesians proudly identify as Polish citizens and cultivate their strong Catholic traditions, simultaneously preserving their unique and separate identity.[1] does not appear to be in the citation given. Can a quote be provided from the source showing how it relates to this part To this day Silesians proudly identify as Polish citizens and cultivate their strong Catholic traditions, simultaneously preserving their unique and separate identity? The cited book search appears to be about the Silesian Uprising.--Ermenrich (talk) 18:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Kamusella, Tomasz (22 May 2019). Silesia and Central European Nationalisms: The Emergence of National and Ethnic Groups in Prussian Silesia and Austrian Silesia, 1848-1918. Purdue University Press. ISBN 9781557533715. Retrieved 22 May 2019 – via Google Books.
Maybe, but the search 'Silesian uprisings' does not yield any hit in the book's text, while the book itself is about the earlier period, namely, 1848-1918, as indicated in the title. It mentions 1848 uprisings and the Polish-Lithuanian uprising in 1830-31. No page number or a search that would yield a result. Hence, no reference for the statement, which this book supposedly supports. It does not.
Furthermore, at 19:45, 29 March 2020‎ the user 176.181.25.160 removed the following reference that fortified the point on the e fact that the aforementioned book does not support such a statement. See the deleted reference: [1] As a result, many Silesians see the Polish nation-state as acutely Silesiophobic.[2]
At 20:54, 1 April 2020‎ the same user 176.181.25.160 removed another reference, which was providing evidence for the lack of Polonophilia among the Silesians, due to Poland's repressions against Silesian language and culture, which the Silesians see as a case of forced Polonization or of Silesiophobia. See the deleted reference: </ref> The autonomy was observed in breach, and forced polonization swiftly followed.[3][4]
At 02:04, 2 April 2020‎ Oliszydlowski undid the aforementioned revision, but a day later, at 02:12, 3 April 2020‎ the user 176.181.25.160 reinstated this revision.
As can be seen from the log of the user 176.181.25.160 (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.181.25.160), s/he is almost exclusively interested in this article. Namely, in championing misleading and unreferenced (or misreferenced) narrative on the non-existent Polonophilia among the Silesians.
In order to make this point even clearer, please, have a look at the Council of Europe's 2020 assessment of minority rights protection in Poland, especially the fragment on Warsaw's obstinate non-recognition of the Silesians and their language. See: 'No progress has been made on the repeated requests for the recognition of the Silesians as an ethnic minority or Silesian as a regional language, to the regret of the Advisory Committee.' [5] Hyrdlak (talk) 13:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)Hyrdlak[reply]

Original research[edit]

This article is one great big original research. Most of the refs do not even use of the term. If I like French fries this does not make me Frankophile. If I live and work in Germany and favorably speak of German government because it granted me work visa, it does not make me Teutonophile. If during WWI Great Britain was an ally of Russian Empire they did not suddenly became Russophiles. In fact, British Russophobia is a subject of multiple books. Many countries maintain or declare good relations. This does not make them "each-other-philes". The article is full of statements of this kind. I am going to clean it severely. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:47, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have specific examples in mind? The content I added very clearly used the word "Polonophilia" [1], I can't speak to anything else.--Ermenrich (talk) 23:24, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yours looks good. After reading around, I see the problem with Wikipedia definition, which reads rather naive (and unreferenced, too). The gist of the suffix "-phile" implies a positive attitude above "normal". Your ref seems to fall under this understanding: suddenly German society became "pro-Polish" (for a while). Staszek Lem (talk) 23:56, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ T Kamusella. 2019. Polonization Is Back: Law and Justice in Katowice After 2018. Wachtyrz. 5 Jul.
  2. ^ T Kamusella. 2019. Between Silesiophobia and Polonophobia. Wachtyrz. 18 Nov
  3. ^ Andrea Schmidt-Rösler, Autonomie und Separatismusbestrebungen in Oberschlesien 1918-1922, Zeitschrift für Ostmitteleuropa” Forschung 1999, Heft 1.
  4. ^ Dariusz Jerczyński. 2006 Śląski ruch narodowy pod naciskiem polskiego i niemieckiego nacjonalizmu na tle politycznej historii Górnego Śląska w latach 1848–1947. Zabrze: Narodowa Oficyna Śląska. ISBN 9788360540503.
  5. ^ Poland: improvements in Roma integration, but increased intolerance against national minorities. 2020. Council of Europe. 23 Jan.
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