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Pre-Mustang "Pony cars"?[edit]

Wouldn't the mid-1950s original Ford Thunderbird and the Studebaker Avanti be considered pony cars, even though they predated the Mustang?

I'd say not. Both were too expensive and were pitched at an older, more affluent demographic. I'd call them early forms of the personal luxury car. RivGuySC 22:56, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
I would agree. The success of the Mustang and its imitators was because they were substantially more affordable than the T-Bird and the Avanti -- the Avanti's base price was nearly $2,000 higher than the Mustang, which put it out of reach of many buyers. ArgentLA 10:52, 30 October 2005

Origin of the "pony car"[edit]

It is well known, accepted, and documented that the Ford Mustang established the term "pony car". Please provide sources before changing this article to state that the Chevrolet originated the term "pony car". This means identifying proof that the particular model you identify as coining the "horse-related" term was available for sale .. not just a concept car. Note that the Rambler Tarpon was shown to the public before the Ford Mustang went on sale. The original Plymouth Barracuda preceded the Ford Mustang to market by two weeks. Nevertheless, this market segment is called "pony car" -- NOT the "fish car" market segment! Why? Because of the impact of the original Mustang on the automobile marketplace. CZmarlin 03:41, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


this is not a personal blog, and its clear when the word mustang appears 3 or more times 1 paragraph that its bias for mustang lovers. its wikipedia not a mustang fan site. mustang did not copyright the word pony nor car so the proof is weak.

if in fact mustang inpired the term pony car then it should be under origins not the head line. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.169.201.145 (talk) 23:32, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

There is sufficient referenced documentation from third party sources that the origin and inspiration of the pony car term came from the Ford Mustang. To deny this in the head of the article is to avoid the obvious. Thanks! CZmarlin (talk) 10:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

russian link[edit]

I have removed the russian link in external as per WP:EXTERNAL. If you do not feel this edit was correct then revert and leave a note here as to how it fits in the article and wiki guidelines. Anubis1055 (talk) 04:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.169.201.145 (talk) 23:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Was the Plymouth Duster a pony car?[edit]

Plymouth revisited the concept of the original Barracuda in 1970 by creating a special coupe version of the Valiant called the Duster. Would the Duster be considered a pony car? Are there any documents referring to the Duster as a pony car? No signature (talk) 19:44, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Opinion[edit]

I moved the following comment that was part of revision 300930735 by 71.218.2.133 from the article. It was added to the list of pony and muscle cars by automaker, but it is an opinion that belongs here.

This list is incorrect the AMX had a shorter wheelbase of 97 inches and is the pony car while the Javelin had a wheelbase of well over 100 inches and is the muscle car.

In my view, the correct classification for the Javelin is as pony car (it was the same size and marketed directly against the Mustang, Camaro, etc.), the AMX is more properly a two-seat sports car, while The Machine (AMC Rebel/Matador) the mid-size muscle car (although AMC produced a variety of other models). CZmarlin (talk) 21:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Hyundai Coupe? and Origin of Pony Car[edit]

First off, I agree with all what CZmarlin said about the term Pony car, its origins, and believe that the article doesn't need editing in that sense. Other than that, do you guys really believe the Hyundai Genesis Coupe qualifies to be termed a pony car? Not forgetting that Pony cars are in reality affordable MUSCLE cars, not tuner cars. Whoever believes the Hyundai Coupe is a Pony car, why don't you include the Mitsubishi Eclipe? Lance? Honda Civic? And the list of tuner cars goes on and on and on...

Anyway, let me know what you think, and good article overall everyone :)

(Darkanius (talk) 15:35, 1 December 2009 (UTC))