Talk:Pope Benedict XVI

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Former good articlePope Benedict XVI was one of the Philosophy and religion good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Pope Emeritus title[edit]

In the lede, we read that The Vatican bestowed on him the title pope emeritus shortly after his resignation. This is not what the National Catholic Register article says - and it's canonically impossible. What happened is that Benedict chose this title for himself, and it was announced by his spokesman two days before Benedict's resignation took effect. Also, as the lede is meant to summarize article contents, a corrected statement should be duplicated in the appropriate section of the body. Thanks. 2600:8800:1880:9A3:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 07:25, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Edit request, 15 January 2019[edit]

  • Please change The Vatican bestowed on him the title pope emeritus shortly after his resignation. to:
  • Benedict chose to be known by the title "pope emeritus" upon his resignation. 2600:8800:1880:9A3:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 17:47, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 17:49, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
The source is already provided. The current incorrect assertion does not match the source information. 2600:8800:1880:9A3:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 17:55, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Infobox usage of 'Bishop of Rome'[edit]

Myself and another editor, appear to be in a dispute over whether or not to use Bishop of Rome in the infobox. It's been my understanding that we always go with the 'highest title' used by the person, living or dead. Thus for example, the reason this article is named Pope Benedict XVI, rather then Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI. GoodDay (talk) 17:16, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Looking at the infoboxes for articles on the few previous Popes who resigned... they don’t list either “Pope” or “Bishop of Rome” under the heading “Previous positions”. I would say omit both. Blueboar (talk) 17:54, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
Shall we remove Bishop of Rome from all past popes? Resignation or death, the person ceases to be pope (i. bishop of Rome). GoodDay (talk) 18:20, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
No need... if you look at a random sampling of infoboxes for other Popes, the title “Bishop of Rome” is already NOT included in the “previous posts” field (we cannot remove what isn’t there). I would have this article’s infobox match those. Blueboar (talk) 20:07, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
I'd have no problem removing Bishop of Rome, including from the current pope's infoboxes. GoodDay (talk) 20:21, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Emeritus[edit]

There have been multiple talks on this but I am going to bring this up again. While Benedict 16 is still living, I recommend the use of Emeritus in his title. After his death, Emeritus can be removed. The title now suggests two popes.Manabimasu (talk) 15:14, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Just like his predecessors, Benedict XVI is a former pope. It doesn't matter whether he's dead or alive. PS: Note that the article itself is named Pope Benedict XVI, not Pope emeritus Benedict XVI. GoodDay (talk) 21:46, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
I suppose the unique situation here would be that all other former popes are dead, and that is why they are former. Benedict XVI's resignation was extremely unusual and not following the normal customs of a Pope, who traditionally holds the office until death. That being said, I am looking at other living former monarchs (of extant monarchies) like Juan Carlos I of Spain, Beatrix of the Netherlands, Akihito, etc. and all of them use their highest office, that of monarch. It would be consistent with other articles to use Pope Benedict XVI in the infobox, title, and opening of the lede. It is worth mentioning in the lede that he is now referred to as Pope Emeritus, and that should suffice. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 01:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Indeed, it's mentioned in the lead that he's referred to as pope emeritus & that should suffice. Also, you're quite correct in how we handle the infoboxes of living former monarchs. GoodDay (talk) 01:42, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Missing Word[edit]

In the last sentence of the section "Encounter with Romano Guardini" states "At the close of the twentieth the future Cardinal Ratzinger would write an introduction to a 1996 reissue of Guardini's 1954 classic "The Lord".[31]" and is missing the word century after the word twentieth. ReadTheWholeBook (talk) 08:42, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

 Done that paragraph was in need of copyediting. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. Elizium23 (talk) 08:55, 25 December 2019 (UTC)