Talk:Pope Pius XII

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NPOV[edit]

The article needs to give a much better summary and coverage of the so-called "Pius Wars", including the main arguments of the critics, the debate including main arguments from both sides should also get at least a couple of sentences in the lead. Currently it includes only one side of the debates. It is surprising for example that none of David Kertzer's two books are used as a source - Susan Zuccotti and Robert Ventresca is also used very little - and their critical conclusions are not included at all. The article does come across as mostly apologetic in its overall tone and content relative to the complexity of the body of literature. (Maunus (talk · contribs) logged out) 172.0.128.110 (talk) 01:36, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

I agree, it is a whitewash. A primary source is cited in the first paragraph to support some controversial original research. A short internet essay by one Frank J. Coppa is cited repeatedly throughout the article (including the next two cites of the lead section) to make highly controversial statements in Wikipedia's voice. A NPOV tag has been left for a year in one section. This is not currently "one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community". zzz (talk) 23:37, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Might be a silly question, but how did zzz agree with a comment by Maunus which was only posted two hours later. Tigerboy1966  21:28, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
@Maunus: for what it's worth, could you add the two books by Kertzer to a Further reading section, along with any essential new literature by Zuccotti, Ventresca or anyone else? – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 23:06, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Done.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 11:57, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

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