Talk:Prayer for the dead

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TODO[edit]

These are just some suggestions.

  • Add prayer for the dead in other, additional religions.
  • Add headings and subheadings, and if needed clean up the organization.

Wesley 17:04, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I would add that Liturgy of Apostle and Evangelist Mark and Liturgy of Saint James written in year 60, named by Bible the brother of Jesus, and Leader of the First Church in the world, contain prayers for the departed.Adrian

I would add that it would be best to add the Protestant argument over why this shouldn't be practiced. I think that the methodology followed in the justified by faith alone vs. faith + works article was quite good. XieChengnuo 07:05, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Information on prayer for the dead in Eastern religions would be a useful addition to the material on Judaism and Christianity. 67.63.1.226 15:31, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Might be helpful to add in why 2 Tim 16-18 is used as a proof text for prayer for the dead when there is no mention of Onesiphorus being dead at all. --Littlewild 16:59, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Very good point. Where is it suggested he was departed at the time of the writing of this epistle? 68.116.112.45 (talk) 23:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
All references to Onesiphorus are in the past tense: gave, came, found, searched... If he were still alive why pray mercy on his family instead of for he himself? Mannanan51 (talk) 19:27, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

In the interest of neutrality, perhaps some mention of the Egyptian htp-di-nsw formula might be appropriate? There is already a page on it here on wiki, so that could be linked to. 82.108.42.66 (talk) 01:49, 9 March 2009 (UTC)Nefertum

I also think it would appropiate to add information about the Catholic tradition of praying the Rosary during nine days after the person's death. --189.247.197.226 (talk) 01:02, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Dead article?[edit]

This is a terrible, terrible article. I removed an advert for a funeral service and noticed that many of the claimed references are to questionable websites. Many sections are free of references. Some refs are not even in English - this is English Wikipedia. And overall, a mess. It is so bad, I do not even know how to fix it, but must tag it. This type of item just makes Wikipedia look bad. Might as well reduce it to 4 or 5 short and correct paragraphs instead of this chaos. History2007 (talk) 22:10, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Misnomer[edit]

Kaddish is not a "Prayer for the dead". It is said in virtually every Jewish service, often many times, and is therefore part of a funeral service. It is roughly equivalent to the Christian "Magnificat", and as the name implies, it is simply a praise of God. There are some variations of Kaddish, depending on the occasion and depending on the congregation (Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Mizrachi etc).Historygypsy (talk) 13:10, 7 June 2015 (UTC)