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Age of PPN

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I added a book that talks about a "PPNA" site that dates from 9.000 BC. Also, the Antiquity source says "11500 - 10500 cal BP". And a [http://neareast-prehistory.com/html/ppna.html website from an archaeologist dates its start at "from the Final Natufian at around 10,300-10,000bp". I have no idea of what "BP" means in archaeology. --Enric Naval (talk) 15:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P.D.: actually, those ages are only for PPN-A. The lead should have the dates from when PPN-A starts to when PPN-C ends. Dunno if it's around 6200 BC or so. --Enric Naval (talk) 15:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Basically, if you are going to use a source, you shouldn't change it this way - cal BP datesare calibrated radiocarbon dates, and if the authors had wanted to give calendar dates I'm sure they would have done so. I removed the dates because, as I said, they weren't sourced, I should have said the source was for something else, the PPN-A as Enric points out and the article is very clear about that. Right now the article contradicts itself and is wrong. Dougweller (talk) 16:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To add to article

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To add to this article: mention of the fact that, although pottery was not produced or used by people of the Pre-Pottery Neolithic, they seem to have made containers out of stone (as the four photos in the article indicate). 173.88.246.138 (talk) 13:32, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

False information

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Why are the dna studies all before 2010 lol, early Europe farmers are clearly closer to sardina then anyone else in the world and all Europe is closer than the near east which any recent study after the single outdated cherry picked source here will tell you 68.1.191.4 (talk) 01:27, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anatolian Neolithic Farmers according to admixtools 2 Fst are closer to South Europeans, then Middle East and THEN North Euros. Claiming all Europeans are closer is very misleading. Itisme3248 (talk) 23:20, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccurate genetic distance map due to bad sample quality "Genetic distance between PPNB farmers and modern populations"

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Cypriots being the closer to Levant Neolithic than Levantines seemed very weird since Levantines have the highest Levant Neolithic ancestry + extra ancestry not so different to Levant neolithic, so i also ran fst for the same Neolithic Levantine samples (Jordan_PPNB) and they seem to score crazy high Fst distances to everyone, something is obviously wrong with the samples. That picture should be removed because its misleading.

Look at the Fst i ran. Jordan_PPNB has crazy high distances to everyone compared to Anatolian Neolithic Farmers (Barcin_N).

Admixtools 2 Fst Admixtools 2 Fst
Genetic distance to Anatolian Neolithic Farmers est Standard Errors/ Deviation Genetic distance to Jordan_PPNB est Standard Errors/ Deviation
Greece_BA_Mycenaean 1,26% 0,09% Lebanon_MBA,SG 19,400% 0,421%
Minoan_All 1,28% 0,12% Egyptian 20,800% 0,286%
Italian_South 1,83% 0,09% Minoan_All 21,000% 0,378%
Sicilian 1,96% 0,06% Greece_BA_Mycenaean 21,100% 0,336%
Italian_North 1,99% 0,05% Cypriot 21,200% 0,327%
Sardinian 2,02% 0,05% Jordanian 21,200% 0,304%
Cypriot 2,04% 0,08% Lebanese 21,300% 0,310%
Albanian 2,07% 0,07% Moroccan 21,300% 0,301%
Greek_Thessaloniki 2,12% 0,06% Italian_South 21,400% 0,338%
Bulgarian 2,14% 0,06% Saudi 21,400% 0,305%
Greek_Athens 2,19% 0,05% Syrian 21,400% 0,309%
Spanish 2,24% 0,04% Sicilian 21,600% 0,310%
Lebanon_MBA,SG 2,37% 0,19% Anatolia_Neolithic 21,700% 0,318%
Lebanese 2,44% 0,06% Albanian 21,800% 0,334%
Jordanian 2,53% 0,06% Greek_Athens 21,800% 0,294%
Turkish_Istanbul 2,56% 0,06% Greek_Thessaloniki 21,800% 0,307%
Armenian 2,58% 0,07% Italian_North 21,800% 0,300%
French 2,61% 0,05% Armenian 21,900% 0,307%
Egyptian 2,71% 0,06% Iranian 22,000% 0,297%
Syrian 2,79% 0,07% Turkish_Istanbul 22,000% 0,303%
Georgian 2,97% 0,06% Bulgarian 22,100% 0,307%
Czech 2,98% 0,07% Spanish 22,100% 0,294%
English 2,99% 0,07% Georgian 22,300% 0,298%
Iranian 3,09% 0,06% Sardinian 22,300% 0,306%
Saudi 3,21% 0,08% French 22,400% 0,297%
Norwegian 3,22% 0,07% Czech 22,600% 0,316%
Icelandic 3,36% 0,07% English 22,600% 0,319%
Belarusian 3,40% 0,07% Norwegian 22,900% 0,312%
Moroccan 3,53% 0,07% Belarusian 23,000% 0,314%
Punjabi 6,71% 0,11% Icelandic 23,200% 0,311%
Han 13,70% 0,14% Israel_Natufian 24,300% 1,200%
Dinka,DG 16,00% 0,17% Punjabi 24,700% 0,314%
Israel_Natufian 16,50% 0,60% Han 30,900% 0,318%
Yoruba 16,60% 0,14% Dinka,DG 31,300% 0,350%
Morocco_Iberomaurusian 19,20% 0,25% Yoruba 31,700% 0,303%
Jordan_PPNB 21,80% 0,32% Morocco_Iberomaurusian 33,900% 0,429%
Mbuti,DG 22,80% 0,17% Mbuti,DG 37,600% 0,315%

Itisme3248 (talk) 23:57, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Heading appears vertically across other lines

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Why does the heading "Pre-Pottery Neolithic A" appear vertically (!!!) across the left side of the table & mixed with (laid over) its content on my cellphone display? Arminden (talk) 13:48, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]