Talk:Predator (franchise)

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Suggested move[edit]

I suggest that we move this article to Predator (franchise) in order to be more inclusive of the various other aspects of the franchise besides the films (the comics, games, etc). This would be similar to the Star Wars article, which gives an overview and brief history of the franchise as a whole and serves as the parent/forking-off article for all the other articles related to specific branches of the franchise. I also suggest the same renaming of Category:Predator series to Category:Predator (franchise). The parent category for all things Alien-related has been changed to Category:Alien (franchise) after an AfD discussion, and this closely related franchise has a similar difficulty with naming that could be solved with an identical disambiguation. This move would mirror the inclusive renaming of the Alien category. Thoughts? If there are no objections, I will probably get around to moving this article in the next few days. --IllaZilla (talk) 20:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Since there were no objections, I've gone ahead with this move. This is part of a larger categorization/article moving project I'm undertaking (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Alien/Article categorization for more info)..Redirects will need to be fixed, but shortly all the Alien and Predator-related articles will at least be categorized properly. --IllaZilla (talk) 20:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Pride & Predator[edit]

Despite the title, and plot detail involving an alien, there is no evidence that this Predator alien is in anyway related to the Predator of this franchise. Although various tabloids and blogs have interpreted the announcement as an official Predator tie-in, no-one from Fox has linked the character. Until an official source explicitly states otherwise, this film does not belong on this page. magnius (talk) 16:57, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. There is not yet any reliable evidence suggesting that this is a tie-in to this franchise. --IllaZilla (talk) 21:12, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, I got redirected here, looking to read about Pride and Predator, which isn't in fact mentioned on the page. Sort it out somehow. 81.131.51.38 (talk) 00:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Predators Continuity[edit]

I believe Rodriguez's comments about Predator 2, Alien vs. Predator, and Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem being ignored from the continuity is only wishful thinking on his part. I don't think he ment it literally that this new film erases those. The script itself makes no mention to re-establishing this as a direct sequel either. It's just yet another Predator film, similiar to Predator 2, that doesn't make references to the prior films. Therefor, I don't think it's necessary to include in this article how it's "proven" the Predator sequels no longer count. Until Fox makes an official statement, or it says in the film itself that it's a restart, then it's not set in stone. I also don't understand why it says "The Alien vs. Predator films are sometimes included..." They share story/concept elements from both the Alien and Predator series, so I don't see why they wouldn't be included as part of the Alien and Predator franchises, not just "sometimes". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.55.53.51 (talk) 13:34, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Predator 2 and both AvP films are canonical and part of both franchises' continuities no matter how many fanboys dislike or choose to ignore them. They are officially licensed films produced by 20th Century Fox, members of the creative teams behind both the Alien and Predator franchises were involved in their writing and creation, and they make direct plot tie-ins to both the Alien and Predator films (via the characters of Charles Weyland and Mrs. Yutani). Unless Rodriguez or Fox officially state that Predators is a franchise reboot, or the film itself breaks continuity with the previous ones, then it is merely a sequel and becomes part of the overall film canon. It is just like how Freddy vs. Jason is part of both the Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th franchises, continuing from the events of Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare and Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday. Unless Predators is a stated, blatant reboot like the 2009 Friday the 13th or the upcoming A Nightmare on Elm Street, then it is merely a continuation of the existing Predator franchise which includes Predator, Predator 2, and both AvPs. --IllaZilla (talk) 15:44, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
In other words, I agree with you. --IllaZilla (talk) 00:41, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, and new information posted recently regarding the plot says the Predators film is set between the first and second Predator films. This series has never had direct continuation of its story lines, so the fact this movie won't make reference to Predator 2, or both AVP movies shouldn't be confused with ignoring them. Similarly the Indiana Jones films have done the same thing, with each new installment being unrelated to the last. Predators is almost the Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom of the Predator series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.59.169.173 (talk) 22:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Predators (2010)[edit]

This section talks about Schwarzenegger possibly coming back in his role as Dutch, and Rodriguez is still seeking a director and writer. The movie is out, it's past the cinema and on DVD/BluRay. I think Rodriguez found a director and writer and Schwarzenegger probably isn't coming back unless he goes all T2 on us and goes back in time to remake the movie. This whole section needs a tidy up... ≈ Seraph 12:54, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm just going to delete all that shit. 184.88.235.102 (talk) 09:58, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Ventura's autobiography also alleges Van Damme intentionally injured a stunt man.[edit]

"Ventura's autobiography also alleges Van Damme intentionally injured a stunt man." I've removed this quote as it is unsourced so it's a WP:BLP issue. Please add it back if the source can be found. 24.20.21.240 (talk) 13:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)