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Washington's actual birthday 1732?
When was Washington's actual birthday in 1731 or 1732? If this is a page about his birthday, why is there no mention of has actual birthday and why and how and by how much it changed? On the page about George Washington it says his birthday was Feb 11, 1731 according to the Old Style Calendar. When he was born it was not the old style calendar it was the actual current calendar that everyone in Britain or its colonies used. According to the page about the Gregorian calendar the difference between the Julian and Gregorian calendar changed by 11 days in the year it was adopted by the British in 1752. While it may be clear to others, it is not clear to me as to why the year he was born changed from 1731 to 1732. Was the Old Style calendar one year off of the Julian calendar? It is also not clear to me as to when the Gregorian calendar was adopted in Virginia if George Washington's year of birth shifted by one year then did the year it was adopted also shift by one year? was it really in 1751 Old Style that it changed to 1752 Gregorian?
At any rate, the page on George Washington's birthday should probably mention the fact that his birthday changed when he was 20 years old give or take a year and/or eleven days.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncgeier52 (talk • contribs) 21:36, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Ncgeier52: In the Old Style Calendar, the first day of the year was March 25. Since February 11 comes before March 25, the year changed from 1731 to 1732 and the date changed to February 22 while 11 days (September 2–14, 1752) are removed from the calendar. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 15:43, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Ohio official state holiday nomenclature
The current state of the article indicates that the day is officially known as "Washington–Lincoln Day in ... Ohio". There is a single reference to this from a web document (from 2001).
However, multiple other locations on official Ohio government websites indicate that "Presidents Day" is the nomenclature used: the Ohio Attorney General's website and elsewhere on the Ohio legal codes website, as well as other websites, for example.
Certainly, I'm no authoritative expert, but I was born and grew up in Ohio and have never heard or seen mention of "Washington-Lincoln Day" (not in schools, government offices, official state forms, etc).
Does anyone else have any other sources of authoritative evidence on this naming for Ohio?
In the History section of the article. The sentence "...the holiday was celebrated on Washington's actual birthday, February 22..." bothers me.
It's only the "actual" birthday by the Gregorian calendar. That's like saying the "actual" measurement of 12 inches is 30 centimeters. Neither is more factual than the other, it only differs by how you measure, which are arbitrary choices. Washington's "actual" birthday is different in the Chinese and Jewish calendars, because all calendars are arbitrary, just like the Julian and Gregorian ones are. 2crudedudes (talk) 13:53, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
I believe that the concept we're after is: the day upon which the Earth is in the same position relative to the Sun as it was on the day of one's birth. In Washington's case, the date now designated "February 11" was now 11 days short of that marker, but the date now designated "February 22" marked it correctly. WHPratt (talk) 15:04, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
This article contains a contradiction. In the list of states that observe each name variation, Massachusetts is listed as President's Day, but the subsequent paragraph states "In Massachusetts, the state officially celebrates 'Washington's Birthday' on the same day as the Federal holiday." I cannot easily determine which is correct. Two seemingly authoritative state agencies disagree with each other: https://www.sec.state.ma.us/cis/cishol/holidx.htm (Washington's Birthday) vs. http://www.mass.gov/anf/employment-equal-access-disability/hr-policies/legal-holiday-calendar.html 20:59, 20 November 2016 (UTC)~Martin Kessel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkessel (talk • contribs)