Talk:Prince of Canino and Musignano

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Did any of these people actually claim to be French pretenders? Did any French bonapartists actually recognize them as heads of house? john k 17:52, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't use the word “actually” in conection with Napoléon I. I once read a comic about him and a made-up look-alike. The last line in that comic was:

"Don't we know who is actually sitting in that carriage?"

As a result of this the word “actually” lost it's meaning in conection with Napoléon I and look-alikes. (In the real world Napoléon could never have used a political decoy for linguistic reasons.) However, I understand what you mean. I don't think Luciens children – and further deceants – was ever considered heirs to the French throne. Several of them have lived in France: they would not had been welcomed if they where possible heirs.

2007-03-08 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.

Not a line of succession[edit]

According to this article, this is not a line of succession! Lucien and his heirs were not in the line of succession while the empire existed so they cannot be in it after it ceases to exist when laws of succession freeze. Charles 23:35, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Roman titles[edit]

The article on Roland Bonaparte states: "On the death of his cousin Prince Napoléon Charles Bonaparte in 1899, he succeeded him as the 6th Prince of Canino and Musignano, but he never assumed the title", but since the marriage of his parents was not recognized and validated by Napoléon III, he could not succeed in these titles and thus was his cousin the 5th and last Prince of Canino and Musignano. Paul Brussel (talk) 11:42, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Except it is a Papal title, not a french one, so the Emperor had no say in the succession. According to papal rules, a valid canonical (religious) marriage is all that mattered. Roland Bonaparte was not a french prince (not a member of either the imperial house or the "civil family" of the emperor), but a papal (roman) prince or rather he could have been if he had bothered to ask the Pope or the King of Italy confirmation of the succession. It appears he never did and carried on with his (self-assumed) "french" princedom. Nor did anyone object : the class-conscious danish/greek royal family considered Marie Bonaparte as a royal. 217.167.255.177 (talk) 10:31, 21 June 2017 (UTC)