Talk:Prince of Darkness

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Primary meaning[edit]

My feeling is that Prince of Darkness should redirect to Satan and that the CD box set should sit at Prince of Darkness (album). However, the Satan article does not have an origin statement for the alternative title 'Prince of Darkness', though it can be inferred from other historical references in the article. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 16:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

If it is helpful, PoD in Latin is Princeps Tenebrarum, which can be found in the poem (song) Rhytmus de die mortis by Pietro Damiani[1], as well as in a sermon by Bernard of Clairvaux[2]. Apparently it also occurs in the Descensus ad Infernos appendix to the Acts of Pilate, specifically in the first sentence of IV (XX), but I couldn't find an online Latin text.  --LambiamTalk 19:01, 12 November 2006 (UTC)


I conjecture that this term was coined by John Milton. If so, this page should say that. Michael Hardy (talk) 23:29, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I should have read the remarks above. Maybe Milton was the first to use this term in English. Michael Hardy (talk) 13:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Something higher?[edit]

If Satan is the prince of darkness, who is the king? (talk)

That's just silly. In England, the title of Prince has conventionally been conferred on the monarch's sons, but more generally a prince is a hereditary ruler such as a king. Michael Hardy (talk) 18:29, 27 April 2010 (UTC)


I have removed the following list of people allegedly associated with this nickname. Without a source, inclusion of some of these people constitutes slander and a serious violation of WP:BLP. DO NOT add these back without proper sourcing, or your addition will be removed. WTF? (talk) 19:03, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

  • A name applied to the mythical god Hades
  • A nickname for Mark Calaway; (more commonly Lord of Darkness) WWE wrestler known best as The Undertaker
  • A name applied to the fictional character Dracula
  • A nickname for General Sir Mike Jackson, Chief of British General Staff, commander of KFOR in the liberation of Kosovo
  • A nickname for Lord Mandelson, former British Cabinet Minister and First Secretary of State
  • A nickname for Warren Kinsella, Canadian political consultant and former PMO staffer to Prime Minister Jean Chretien
  • A nickname for Robert Novak, American journalist and conservative commentator
  • A nickname for Ozzy Osbourne, British rock singer and television personality
  • A nickname for Tim Parker, British businessman
  • A nickname for Richard Perle, American assistant Secretary of Defense during the Reagan administration
  • A nickname for Gordon Willis, cinematographer famous for his work on The Godfather films
  • A nickname for Jared Leto, actor, musician, director, songwriter
  • A nickname for Miles Davis, jazz musician
  • A nickname for Donald Rumsfeld, American Secretary of Defense during Gerald Ford's and George W. Bush's administrations
I understand that WP:BLP is VERY IMPORTANT, but you removed a few deceased (i.e., not living) people there, not to mention Hades and Dracula, neither of whom I think are planning on suing Wikimedia anytime in the foreseeable future. I've added them back, and I've sourced the living people (with a few exceptions of folks who shouldn't have been on the list in the first place). - Nellis 00:01, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Fictional and/or dead people still need a source, but it isn't necessarily a WP:BLP issue, so immediate deletion is not necessary. WTF? (talk) 15:32, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Bow Wow Wow song[edit]

I don't see such a song on the indicated Bow Wow Wow album. Some sources indicate it is in parentheses in the title of Sinner! Sinner! Sinner! If someone could clarify or confirm, I would appreciate it.Tinman44 (talk) 19:23, 21 January 2014 (UTC)