Talk:Prithviraj Chauhan

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Edit request from Angel.vampire1, 24 August 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} Please change the following as it is not correct and can be rejected:

  • "He succeeded to the throne in 1169 A.D. at the age of 20" because he succeded the throne at age 13.

prithviraj chauhan defeated Ghori 2 times and left him alive.but the 3th time Ghori defeated prithviraj chauhan . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chandra ruler (talkcontribs) 20:26, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

  • "Sultan Ghauri took Prithvi Raj to Ghazni, where he was executed" is not true since after being taken to Ghazni, Prithviraj Chauhan killed Ghauri(Ghori).Ghori returned a year later. Prithviraj sent him a letter reminding him of how he had spared his life one year earlier, and asked him to leave. Ghori said he was waiting for his brother's orders to do so, and moved his camp back a few kilometres. add this: Ghori had taken Jai Chand's help knowing the animosity Jaichand held against Prithvi Raj Chauhan. Jai Chand gave inputs about war strategy of Prithvi Raj and the knowledge that Rajputs didn't fight by night, he suddenly attacked in the early hours, taking Prithviraj's army by surprise and captured Prithviraj after a fierce battle which had betrayal by Jaichand without which it would have not been possible for Ghauri to win the battle.It is recorded that Prithviraj requested Jaichand to unite with him and fight Ghouri, but Jaichand refused and sided with Ghouri.
Jaichand himself did not escape as after the defeat of Prithviraj, Ghouri turned his sword on Jaichand and at the battle of Chandvar decimated him.

Reference: 'Prithvi Raj Raso' epic book by Chand Bardai; www.gloriousindia.com/history/rajputs.html and www.bukisa.com/articles/516939_traitors-who-changed-the-history-of-india Later Prithviraj Chauhan and his friend Chandar stabbed each other to save themselves from Ghori's gaurds.During his capture in Ghazni, Ghori had used extremely hot iron rods to make prithviraj Chauhan blind. But still Prithviraj Chauhan killed Ghori with the help from his friend Chand Bardai(Chandar) and his shabdbhedi badvidya.

This can be verified by sites http://www.mapsofindia.com/who-is-who/history/prithviraj-chauhan.html and http://hinduhistory.blogspot.com/2008/02/prithviraj-chauhan.html This can also be found in A History of India Volume I by Romila Thapar, A History of India Volume II by Percival, Spear Early Chauhan Dynasties by Dashratha Sharma. Thank you.

Angel.vampire1 (talk) 12:28, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Welcome. Please reach a consensus on the birthyear before renewing this request. The article currently had 1149 with him gaiing the throne in 1169. One of your sources has the birthyear as 1166 and the other has 1168. The one with 1166 appears to be a blog. The one with 1168 claims he was thirteen in 1179, which lessens its credibility as well. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 14:09, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Death of Prithviraj[edit]

It is not fair to exclude the heroics of Prithviraj before he met his end. The same is available here [1] Please refer to the same and make the necessary additions. I could had done this but the page is not editable for all. Bmayuresh (talk) 14:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I was unable to find the required reliable sources for this legend, so the material has not been added to the article at this point. --Diannaa (Talk) 22:04, 11 November 2010 (UTC)


There are no citations for the fanciful claims of how many troops were involved or how the war unfolded. Please remove this entire section or provide appropriate sources. As of now, this reads like the fantasy of some closet admirer of Ghori. - JJR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.169.87 (talk) 18:00, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia makes big part of my surfing,and i strongly believe on the facts written over the Wiki but still It could be possible that many people could give wrong material like in the context pritviraj chauhan, Stating that the great prithviraj chauhan was not gurjar/gujjar is an example.It makes gujjars very insulted by this comment.

This is with reference to the Many scholars and books,the great gurjars-pratihar were the rulers in india before the rajput come any where into existence. Gurjar/pratihars were stated as the wall for the india for arabs invadors and sevured from arab invadors for long times.Than the rajputs comes into existence who are nothing but the kings son so called "rajaputra"than rajput but not the son of the kings queens,These King were actually the gurjars-partihars whose sons were called as the rajput.This is because even today the lots of the gurjar/gujjar clans are same as of rajput,These clans are given to these rajputs by their fathers.

Now comes to the second point,Once the arab intruders succeeded entering india and captured regions,They don't have any soft corner to the great gurjars,and start taking revenges from the gurjars.Than gurjars started moving the remote areas this is the reason even today gurjar/gujjar are found in the remote hilly areas also.Now the the most of the kings stated themself as the rajput but not as gurjars, This above all is mentioned to tell that the gujjar any where are all from the great grujar blood line only not outside from them. On the comment that the gujjar belong to OBC ,this should be known to that person who highlighted this ,that Rajput are also come under OBC in many states.

Great gujrar king Prithviraj Chauhan is said to be rajput by my friend is totally a mischievous, there are lots chauhan gujjar in Ajmer and other part of rajasthan. Even the god sriDevenarayan worshiped by the gujjars and rajput was pride of the chauhan clan of gujjars.

we appreciate if before removing the gujjar tag for Great prithviraj chauhan wiki, we should got some strong references which proof against this. Please revert the changes on the page. This would be very appreciable.

I believe people would immediately see the fallacy regarding the myth that Prithviraj killed Muhammad or Gour through his superb archery skills since Muhammad of Gour died 14 years after Prithviraj's death. This is the most famous version of the story due to it helped the injection of Hindu nationalism after the independence of India. This should be in the literature section,and should not be mentioned as a "fact" as what it had been done on this page.219.92.211.221 (talk) 16:45, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

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Edit request from Durgeshn, 11 May 2011[edit]

THIS ARTICAL IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD AND NEED COMPLETE REWRITE. I volunteer to rewrite

Durgeshn (talk) 21:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

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Edit request from 122.163.73.25, 30 June 2011[edit]

122.163.73.25 (talk) 13:54, 30 June 2011 (UTC) hi pls change this because prithvi raj chauhan was a gurjar rajput and rajput not a cast they r just a group of king who belong differant type diynasty and chauhan was orijanly gurjar just see.[Gurjar]wiki and also see chauhan wiki ,thanks often u also heard about bad gurjar rajput,kushwah rajput,chauhan rajput,and partihar rajput too,that all men is fully fool who saying that persent gurjar is not the same gurjar of past.they all not a rajput ok? and i want to say that if we r not a gurjar partihar so

u also not same rajput like past .and u r also adopted ur cast as a rajput.just shut up ok?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.73.25 (talk) 14:04, 30 June 2011 (UTC) 


Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Also please remain civil otherwise the community will block you. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 19:03, 30 June 2011 (UTC) boss, you need to provide some proof to backup your theory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amitsingh5827 (talkcontribs) 21:20, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Chand Bardai[edit]

Please mention how Chauhan, with the help of Chand Bardai, killed Ghori. Also, Ghori didn't flee in the first battle. Chauhan captured him and released him after asking Ghori not to come to India. Let me know if you need citation. Nameisnotimportant (talk) 19:17, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

The Death of Ghori still remains unproved, but the legend at least deserves a mention. The capture and release is known fact, though, and definitely needs to be added. A citation would be good, yes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.0.88 (talk) 11:50, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Son of Prithvi Raj Chouhan[edit]

Lakhan Kotri is a big locality. Prior to the arrival of Khwaja Saheb in Ajmer, King Prithvi Raj Chouhan had kept here a very beautiful woman here. This woman belonged to Bhil caste. Prithvi Raj Chouhan had twenty one sons through this woman , which is supported by the statement adduced by Farzand Ali S/O Wazeer Ali Khadim Khwaja Saheb on 15th February 1929 min the Court of First Class Magistrate Ajmer, Janab Mangilal Dosi and the same is also certified by the national history of Magare-Merwara. Out of them, four sons had died, among the remaining fifteen sons, Lakha Bhil, the son of this very Bhil woman used to reside in this locality along with his other brothers, Teka Bhil, Shakka Bhil, Bheekas Bhil, Jodha Bhil and Bardha Bhil at the time of Prithvi Raj rule, at the time of arrival of Khwaja saheb in Ajmer. By the name of this Lakha Bhil, this locality was called Lakhan Kotri and even today the same is called as such and is popular by the same. This statement is supported by the same name. This statement is supported by Col. James Tode’s historical book Tode of Rajasthan also and page no. 43 of the book” Moin-Ul-Arwah” and page no. 71 and 72 of the book “Ahsanul sair” also support this statement . The same is proved by page no.71 of the book by name History of Khwaja Ajmeri. More ever , in the very same locality there was silver mine, but when silver stopped to emerge, the same was closed due to the same not being profit rendering. At the time of arrival of British and in the last period of Mughals also this locality was a solitude Jungle but at the ending of the year 1817, when this city came under the capture of Britishers, the well to do persons got constructed houses after obtaining permission from British officials, which assumed the shapes of Kothies later on. The grave (Tomb) of the very same Lakha Bhil is existing in the locality Salawtan Upar wali Hathai lane, Lakhan Kotri even now. This statement is supported by page no. 410 of book Kitab Moinul Arwah written by Nawab Khadim Hussain also and pages number 71 & 72 of the book “Ahsanul Sair” also prove that these so called khadims have continued to go there till the year 1947 AD. And continued to celebrate the Annual Urs of Lakha Bhil. Today Haji Iftekhar Ali son of Sarfraz alone is a Khadim, who pays visit to the tomb of his fore father, Lakha Bhil, regularly and resorts to phool, agarbatti etc But when these Khadims notices that there is none to know about their reality, they took advantage of this and started telling that tombs of both the wives of Khwaja in the Tosha Khana of the tomb of Khwaja Saheb and the tomb of others, is the tomb of the so called Fakhruddin Gurdezi and here also they have started extracting amount from the innocent people. After gathering the historical informations of Lakahn Kotri in whose name the locality was inherited and the same is still as such, i.e. on a Bhil by name Lakha they were liventy one brother who were the so called children of Prithvi Raj Chouhan, out of these brothers, Lakha , Tekka, Shakha, Bheeka, Jodha and Birdha approached Khwaja Saheb and in this manner they started to visit Khwaja Saheb regularly. At the time when Khwaja Saheb was spreading Islam, Lakha Bhil, Teeka Bhil embraced Islam and accepted Khwaja Saheb as their Murshad ( Religious Master) and this incident is of the year 1178 (Chander Bhai) and in the meanwhile there was Bikram Year 1265. Thus, after Lakha Bhil and Teka Bhil embraced Islam, the Islmic names were again given to them by Khwaja Saheb, i.e.the name of Lakha was kept as Fakharuddin and the name of Teka as Moahmmed Yadgar. Thus, Lakha Bhil, on account of being the child of Mohammed Yadgar is Sheikhzada Khadim. In this way, those who are associated with Anjuman Moinia Fakhriya Chishtia Syed Zadgan Khuddam Khwaja Saheb, are from the off-springs of Lakha Bhil and those who are associated with Anjuman Yadgar Chishtia Sheikh Zadgan Khuddam. Khwaja Saheb are the off springs of Teka Bhil.

The above statement is supported by page number 44 and 45 of the book Chander Bhat ( Called Bhai) also, which is entered in a court record file as Exhibit D-44 and 45 in a criminal case of Lakha Bhil and in connection with the support of the very same above subject, there had run a criminal case which was decreed in the year 1930 A.D. Through this very judgement it was proved that all the Khadims of the Dargah of Ajmer are from the off-springs of Lakha Bhil. This case was entered in this manner that. “ In the Court of Treasury officer and Magistrate First Class Ajmer Criminal Case no. 70 of 1928” Sarfraz Ali son of Yousuf Ali Khadim of Ajmer complaint versus Mohiuddin Alais Pyare Miyan musalman of Ajmer accused decided on 31.7.1930 by Jawahar Lal Rawat Magistrate First Class.

In this case the Court hold as under that Lakha and his brother Tekka became Mohammedan in Samvat 1175 (Samvat Chander Bhat) it was samvat (Bikrami) 1265. Then Khadims are the descendants of Lakha and Tekka. Lakha and Tekka were Bhil. Lakha’s Islamic name was Fakharuddin, Takkas’s name was Mohammed Yadgar.

Prior to the commencement of this case also the so called Khadim of Dargah got associated themselves to any one of their liking, but Muhiddin Alia, Pyare Miyan has spoken about them that :-

Chao Musalman Gasht Awural Eteqad Naam lakha Bhil Fakharuddin Ninhad

And thus there started litigation among the so called Khadims of Dargah and Payre Miyan. Both the parties adduced their respective proofs and took the support of historical book and in this way, at least Moniuddin Alias Pyare Miyan made believe the court that the entire Khadim Community (Syed Zadgan) are the descendants of Lakah Bhil. This case is supported by page 145 and page 146 and page 147 of the book “The Shrine and Cult of Moinduudin Chishti of Ajmer” written by P.M. Curry. This book has been published in (19) countries at a time through Oxford Press London. In the support of the very same Lakha Bhil and Teka Bhil, on in enquiring from Late Haji Iftkhar Ali, the then Sadar Anjuman Lakha Walan and Late Sheikh Riyaz Mohammed the then Sadar Anjuman Tekawalkan, it was informed by Late Sheikh Riyaz Mohammed and the members of his association that on 9th August, 1971 A.D.. The Rajasthan High Court in its judgment has given of equal share to both these Associations from the property of Lakha Bhil and Teka Bhil. But under an agreement by playing fraud upon us it was declared that the share of Anjuman Lakha Walan and Anjuman Teka Walan is eleven Anna. I this agreement, after the name of their associated (Anjuman) Lakha Walan has not been written, on the other hand they have got writtenTeka walan after the name of our Association fraudulently. Hence the above statements of Sheikh Riyaz Mohammed is making certification of Lakha and Tekka even today. However, there had been several cases in connection with being the descendants of Lakha Bhil from time to time. Among these, a case no. 314 of 1928 Sharif Hussain versus Dargah Committee Ajmer also is filed. In this case the documents where are produced as Exhibit P-12, are as under:-

Case No. 314 of 1928. Exhibit P.12, Shareef Hussain Versus Dargah Committee Ajmer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thetrue (talkcontribs) 05:37, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


DESPERATELY needs a rewrite[edit]

This entire article reads like some B-Grade fantasy novel, and a really bad one at that. There isn't even a single citation beyond the bibiliography; and it doesn't even mention Chauhan's grave in Afghanistan. Either the editor of this article please come forward and provide some credible sources, or this needs to be rewritten from scratch, which I'll be more than willing to do (I'm not logged in at the moment) if there's no response in a few days' time.

Same thing for the Battles of Tarain article - not a single citation, and just bunch of stuff mashed up together. some of the states in india during prithvi's time 1)mewath - enemy of prithvi , the king was Mudhgal Rai. In the war that prithvi fought, his two generals Patan Bajid Khan and Ram Gujjar were killed by prithvi's generals Kaimas and Kuramb respectively. 2)mandowar - king was Nahar Rai. His daughter jamvathi was prithvi's first wife. it was kind of love-hate relation between ajmer n this state. The king first wanted prithvi to marry his daughter, then isulted prithvi n someshwar, so prithvi fought war, then he married his daughter to prithvi- fromt hen on the two states were on friendly terms 3)Onchar - king was jaswant. Prithvi captured this state with the help of his general Lohana. After that, the king was on friendly terms with prithvi 4)Nagaur - this was under prithvi, later prithvi makes Mir Hussein (brother of ghori) the king of this place. 5)Aabu - king was Salash Panwar. His daughter Inchini was prithvi's second wife. His first daughter mandodari married bhimdev of gujrat. After his death, the state was ruled byJaith Panwar (his son) he was a good friend of prithvi. 6)Shishirgad - was ruled by the yadav king Vijaypal (this state is supposed to be ib the eastern side of india). his daughter padmavathi was prithvi's fourth wife (third wife was dhamini- punder's sister). first he had fixed the marriege of padmavathi with the king of Kamau- Kumodham 7)Devgiri - was ruled by Somwanshi Jadhav. His daughter Shashivratha was prithvi's fifth wife. Rival of prithvi and close friend of jaichand 8)Ujjain - was ruled by King Kamdhaj. His daughter is indravathi- prithvi's sixth wife. close friend of jaichand and Somwanshi Jadhav 9) Ranbambh - ruled by King bhan. His daughter is Hamsavathi - prithvi's seventh wife 10)Kannoj - ruled by jaichand - daughter sanyogita - 8th wife of prithvi 11)gazni - ruled by ghori. his important generals wereThatkar khan, arab khan, Mir Jaman, Khurasa Khan, Rahan Khan, Rustam Khan, Haji Khan, Gazi Khan, Jammar Khan, Muhabat Khan and Mir khan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhavinkundaliya (talkcontribs) 17:04, 31 July 2011 (UTC) Prithviraj's generals n bhimdev's brothers were having some celebration together.However some fight breaks out and one of bhimdev's brothers says something... and kanha chauhan gets angy n kills him this leads to a fight between them n finally all of bhimdev's brothers die n someof prithvi's generals also die. When prithvi hears this he gets upset n calls all his generals n says they shldn't have done thhis. Bhimdev gets angry when he knows about the death of his brothers n decides to take revenge on ajmer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhavinkundaliya (talkcontribs) 17:09, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 21 October 2011[edit]

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Amit Singh 21:03, 21 October 2011 (UTC) Sir, Please add some information on this page, about the death of Muhammad of Ghor by Prithvi Raj To refer, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_of_Ghor



Finally Prithvi Raj Victorious: As a prisoner in Ghor, Prithviraj was brought in chains before Muhammad Ghori.He haughtily looked Ghori straight into the eye. Ghori ordered him to lower his eyes, where upon a Prithviraj scornfully reminded him that the "eyes of a rajput is lowered only when a rajput dies". On hearing this, Ghori ordered that his eyes to be burnt with red hot iron rods.

Prithviraj's former courtier Chand Bardai, whose poems were later collected and added to by other poets came to be known as the Prithviraj Raso, a ballad-biography of Pritiviraj, came to Ghori to be near Prithviraj in his misery. Chand Bardai came in disguise and paens. On the one hand, he earned Mahmud's regard; on the other, he took every opportunity to meet with Prithviraj and urge him to avenge Ghori. The two got an opportunity to kill Muhammad Ghori when Ghori announced an archery competition.

Chand Bardai told Ghori that Prithviraj was so skilled an archer, that he could take aim based only on sound, and did not even need to look at his target. Ghori disdained to believe this; the courtiers guffawed and taunted Chand Bardai, asking how a blind man could possibly shoot arrows. In the spirit of their usual barbaric mockery, they brought the blind and hapless Prithviraj out to the field. Pressing a bow and arrows into his hand, they taunted him to take aim. Chand Bardai told Ghori that this taunting would avail nothing, for Prithviraj would never do as some sundry courtiers bade him do. He said that Prithviraj, as an anointed king, would not accept orders from anyone other than another king. His ego thus massaged, and in the spirit of the occasion, Mahmud Ghori agreed to personally give Prithviraj the order to shoot. Some iron plates were hung and Prithiviraj was asked to aim at them. A man was to strike the plate with a hammer and Prithviraj was supposed to hit that plate.

Thus, Chand Bardai provided Prithviraj with an oral indication of where Ghori was seated by composing a couplet on the spot and reciting the same in Prithviraj's hearing. The couplet, composed in a language understood only by Prithviraj went thus:

"Char bans, chaubis gaj, angul ashta praman, Ta upar sultan hai, Chuke mat Chauhan." (Four measures ahead of you and twenty four yards away as measured with eight finger measurement, is seated the Sultan. Do not miss him now, Chauhan).

Ghori then ordered Prithviraj to shoot. Prithviraj thus came to know the location of Ghori and started shooting at the plates. When he hit the target courtiers said "vah" "vah" and Ghori said "Shabash", recognising Ghori's voice and turning in the direction from where he heard Ghori speak. Prithviraj took aim based only on the voice and on Chand Bardai's couplet, he sent an arrow racing to Ghori's throat. Ghori was thus stuck dead instantly by Prithviraj.

You must give references when you request a change. Wikipedia itself is not a 'reliable source', so I cannot make this change at the moment, sorry.  Chzz  ►  08:10, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 January 2012[edit]

The story of Prithiviraj does not end here. As a prisoner in Ghor he was presented before Mahmud, where he looked Ghori straight into the eye


Ghori ordered him to lower his eyes, whereupon a defiant Prithiviraj scornfully told him how he had treated Ghori as a prisoner and said that the eyelids of a Rajputs eyes are lowered only in death.On hearing this, Ghori flew into a rage and ordered that Prithviraj's eyes be burnt with red hot iron rods

This heinous deed being done, Prithiviraj was regularly brought to the court to be taunted by Ghori and his courtiers. In those days Prithiviraj was joined by his former biographer Chand Bardai, who had composed a ballad-biography on Pritiviraj in the name of Prithviraj Raso (Songs of Prithviraj). Chand Bardai told Prithiviraj, that he should avenge Ghori's betrayal and daily insults.


The Blind Prithviraj Avenges the Injustice done to him

The two got an opportunity when Ghori announced a game of Archery. On the advice of Chand Bardai, Prithviraj, who was then at court said he would also like to participate. On hearing his suggestion, the courtiers guffawed at him and he was taunted by Ghori as to how he could participate when he could not see. Whereupon, Prithiviraj told Mahmud Ghori to order him to shoot, and he would reach his target.

Ghori became suspicious and asked Prithviraj why he wanted Ghori himself to order and not anyone else. On behlaf of Prithiviraj, Chand Bardai told Ghori that he as a king would not accept orders from anyone other than a king. His ego satisfied, Mahmud Ghori agreed.

On the said day, Ghori sitting in his royal enclosure had Prithiviraj brought to the ground and had him unchained for the event. On Ghori's ordering Prithviraj to shoot, we are told Prithiviraj turned in the direction from where he heard Ghori speak and struck Ghori dead with his arrow. This event is described by Chand Bardai in the couplet, "Dus kadam aggey, bees kadam daey, baitha hai Sultan. Ab mat chuko Chouhan, chala do apna baan." (Ten feet ahead of you and twenty feet to your right, is seated the Sultan, do not now miss him Chouhan, release your baan - arrow).


Thus ended the story of the brave but unrealistic Prithviraj Chouhan - the last Hindu ruler of Delhi. Delhi was to remain under Muslim rule for the next 700 years till 1857 and under British rule till 1947.

151.191.175.207 (talk) 04:52, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. --Bryce (talk | contribs) 05:35, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

mohammad ghori was assassinated in1206 at sohana near zelam in current pak. so how it can be possible that prithviraj killed ghori ??( pitie minds self satisfaction )

Note, this is CCOPYVIO (see here). EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 20:15, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 July 2012[edit]

Contrary to popular belief, some historians disagree about the archery competition held by Muhammad Gori and that he was killed by Prithviraj Chauhan. Infact, coins recovered suggest that Prithviraj actually ruled over Ranthambor for some time and the coins had the seal too.

180.215.50.150 (talk) 21:56, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. RudolfRed (talk) 02:44, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 December 2012[edit]

I want to add today's spelling to the archaic ones "Jai Chandra Rathod" to "Jai Chandra Rathod (Rathore)" Baitaal (talk) 15:37, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

There are numerous pointy transliterations, often designed to make alleged connections to various castes etc. Are there any decent sources that refer to Jai Chandra Rathore? I can get only five results using Google Search and not one of them is reliable. - Sitush (talk) 16:21, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

answerfrom Baitaal: Quote "In Northern part of India, the Rathore (or Rathor or Rathur or Rathod or Rathour) is a Suryavanshi Indian clan." From ,Google books"Gorkhas: The Warrior Race By Bandana Rai" http://books.google.com.pk/books?id=keEl6QKnuoYC&pg=PA147&dq=rathore+%26+Rathod&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XcjFUOmKEMuk4ATQ04DgDw&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=rathore%20%26%20Rathod&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baitaal (talkcontribs) 11:37, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes. I was aware that there are a multitude of names for the clan but not of that has any bearing on the name of this individual. You need to find reliable sources that call him "Jai Chandra Rathore" and, as I said above, there do not appear to be any. - Sitush (talk) 11:59, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

third para[edit]

In this article the 3rd paragraph from first is unnecessary.First it should be shown prithviraj was defeated at 2nd battle in understandable shorter form.Then in the respective battle section it should be in detail how he was defeated and kiled. Then it will be in structured form according to my view 14.99.10.194 (talk) 07:52, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 31 December 2012[edit]

Gurjardesh (talk) 11:44, 31 December 2012 (UTC) Prithviraj chauhan is a GURJAR Rajputra

Please can you provide a reliable source for this. There has been quite a campaign to insert Gurjar origin claims on Wikipedia of late but they have usually proven to be either unverifiable or, at best, contentious and in need of more explanation than a simple "is" or "was". Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 20:30, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 April 2013[edit]

The article under the title "Death of Ghori and Prithviraj" is incorrect. The mentioned article is the elaboration of a poem by Prithviraj Raso <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prithviraj_Raso>.

Ghori was assasinated by Gakhars or Khokhars as mentioned in the article "Final days and death" on Ghori's page on wiki <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahabuddin_Muhammad_Ghori>. There are references given in the article "Final days and death" on Ghori's page. 188.49.118.35 (talk) 19:18, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Thanks, --ElHef (Meep?) 04:21, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

death of pritvhiraj and Ghori[edit]

it is mentioned that prithviraj killed ghori, if it is true then how come date of death of these two rulers are different.

prithivraj's death is mentoned as 1169 while ghori's death is mentioned as 1206, please clarify — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moosad (talkcontribs) 06:24, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 October 2013[edit]

I am a butt!

Anandhsai (talk) 20:41, 18 October 2013 (UTC) After the 2nd battle of Tarain, Prithviraj Chauhan was blinded by Ghori. The rajput king's court-poet and childhood friend Chand Bardai followed Ghori in disguise, came to his camp and gained his trust. He then met Prithvi and they made a plan. Chand Bardai told Ghori that PRC knew Shavbvedi, i.e he could hit a target with his arrow on hearing a sound, but since he was a king, he would do so only on the orders of another king- i.e Ghori. Ghori called Prithvi and asked him to aim at a ringing bell. But instead of the bell, Prithviraj aimed for the sound of Ghori's voice. According to some legends, Chand composed a poem to help Prithvi understand the exact location of Ghori. Anyway, Ghori was killed, and to avoid being humiliated by Ghori's soldiers, Chand and Prithvi stabbed each other. Prithviraj Chauhan's grave is in Afganisthan and one needs to trod on that grave to visit Ghori's grave.

Not done: This is a direct copy of text that exists on the internet, for example in the third answer on this page. It also has some too-close paraphrasing of The Krishna Key by Ashwin Sanghi. Please write it in your own words. Considering what has been said before on this talk page, reliable sources are essential. --Stfg (talk) 21:26, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 20 October 2013[edit]

Birth date:- 1148 external link:-http://prithvirajraso.hpage.com Shivrajansingh (talk) 03:17, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Not done: That is a self-published source. Please provide an independent, reliable source. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 04:10, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 26 October 2013[edit]

The story of Prithiviraj does not end here. As a prisoner in Ghor he was presented before Mahmud, where he looked Ghori straight into the eye and threw up.


Ghori ordered him to lower his eyes and left to wash his face, whereupon a defiant Prithiviraj scornfully told him how he had treated Ghori as a prisoner and said that the eyelids of a Rajputs eyes are lowered only in death.On hearing this, Ghori flew into a rage and ordered that Prithviraj's eyes be burnt with red hot iron rods

This heinous deed being done, Prithiviraj was regularly brought to the court to be taunted by Ghori and his courtiers. In those days Prithiviraj was joined by his former biographer Chand Bardai, who had composed a ballad-biography on Pritiviraj in the name of Prithviraj Raso (Songs of Prithviraj). Chand Bardai told Prithiviraj, that he should avenge Ghori's betrayal and daily insults.


The Blind Prithviraj Avenges the Injustice done to him

The two got an opportunity when Ghori announced a game of Archery. On the advice of Chand Bardai, Prithviraj, who was then at court said he would also like to participate. On hearing his suggestion, the courtiers guffawed at him and he was taunted by Ghori as to how he could participate when he could not see. Whereupon, Prithiviraj told Mahmud Ghori to order him to shoot, and he would reach his target.

Ghori became suspicious and asked Prithviraj why he wanted Ghori himself to order and not anyone else. On behlaf of Prithiviraj, Chand Bardai told Ghori that he as a king would not accept orders from anyone other than a king. His ego satisfied, Mahmud Ghori agreed.

On the said day, Ghori sitting in his royal enclosure had Prithiviraj brought to the ground and had him unchained for the event. On Ghori's ordering Prithviraj to shoot, we are told Prithiviraj turned in the direction from where he heard Ghori speak and struck Ghori dead with his arrow. This event is described by Chand Bardai in the couplet, "Dus kadam aggey, bees kadam daey, baitha hai Sultan. Ab mat chuko Chouhan, chala do apna baan." (Ten feet ahead of you and twenty feet to your right, is seated the Sultan, do not now miss him Chouhan, release your baan - arrow).


Thus ended the story of the brave but unrealistic Prithviraj Chouhan Justrohitkumar (talk) 01:11, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[1]

References

  • Not done: This entire passage can be found in various places on the internet, worded exactly like this ... such as here, here, and here. This means that there is most likely a published source out there that uses this text, so putting it into the Wikipedia article would be plagiarism. Also, this request is not formatted as a request, so where to put this text is not clear, even if it was not plagiarism. Steel1943 (talk) 05:25, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
From the reliable historical sources I have found, the story, being requested for insertion, is simply a legend. According to MUHAMMAD B. SAM Mu'izz AL-DIN, T.W. Haig, Encyclopaedia of Islam, Vol. VII, ed. C.E.Bosworth, E.van Donzel, W.P. Heinrichs and C. Pellat, (Brill, 1993), 410; Prithviraj was slain at the 2nd battle of Tarain(1192), whereas Muhammad of Ghor was assassinated in 1205. --Kansas Bear (talk) 05:37, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Face-smile.svg Thank you for finding that information! I noticed that this was not the first time this was requested either, so I figured something was not right. Steel1943 (talk) 06:16, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Kindly mention Capital Sambhal (city in UP) in Prithviraj history.[edit]

We all know about the capital of prithviraj Sambhal where the tota mena grave is present.The city also contains the things which verifies that he has lived here and fought with the Aala-Udhav brothers here. Kindly make changes in his wikipedia page as Sambhal is a important phase in his life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.196.80.7 (talk) 10:57, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

No mention in the article without reliable sources. Please see our policy regarding verifiability. Graves, for example, often exist many miles from where a person lived and even died, eg: many graves from World War I. - Sitush (talk) 15:11, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 January 2014[edit]

Prithvi raj defeated Ghori 17 times and gave mercy on 18th time he was captured, and Prithviraj shot an Shabdvedi baan(arrow from where the voice is coming) and killed Ghori

I see people have made many request to edit this Prithviraj Chauhan page and have given reliable information,but people from wikipedia say to mention a trusted source,may i know from where has wikipedia got the details that you have posted on the page or why do you believe that whatever is posted on the current page is true which had no citations also, please update the Prithiviraj Chauhan page with correct information 202.134.167.207 (talk) 18:21, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

I have already posted evidence from "The Encyclopaedia of Islam" that clearly states Ghori was assassinated in 1206 and not killed by Prithviraj(who was executed after the Second battle of Tarain in 1192). --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:59, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Not done. Kansas appears to be correct. Alas, I suspect that people will keep requesting this change in ignorance of reliable sources. - Sitush (talk) 15:09, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2014[edit]

Pritviraj chauhan was a gurjar chouhan ruler the link Prithviraj Chauhan belonged to the Chauhan clan, which according to a legend mentioned in later manuscripts of Prithviraj Raso was part of Agnikula Rajputs, derived it’s origin from a sacrifical fire-pit.However a number of scholars including V. A. Smith assign him aGurjara origin.[1][2]Chauhan was the last independent Hindu king to sit upon the throne of Delhi[3]. He succeeded to the throne in 1169 CE at the age of 20, and ruled from the twin capitals of Ajmer and Delhi which he received from his maternal grandfather Arkpal or Anangpal III of the Tomara dynasty in Delhi. He controlled much of present-dayRajasthan and Haryana, and unified the Rajputs against Muslim invasions. His elopement in 1175 with Samyukta (Sanyogita), the daughter of Jai Chandra Rathod, the Gahadvalaking of Kannauj, is a popular romantic tale in India, and is one of the subjects of thePrithviraj Raso, an epic poem composed by Chauhan’s court poet and friend, Chand Bardai. 122.252.237.34 (talk) 14:18, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Your source is not reliable. but the article already says that he was a Chauhan ruler. In fact, I think your source is a mirror of an old version our article. - Sitush (talk) 15:06, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
The article clearly states its Rajput clan.. Even if to be believed origin is Gurjar who lated called Rajput the link states Prithviraj Chauhan was Rajput King. No doubt in that.. If still the article is made protected by this and moderated not getting the actual meaning than its unfortunate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.50.50.243 (talk) 09:04, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

prithviraj chauhan was gurjar[edit]

Periodically, a group of accounts appear on Wikipedia and try to "push" claims of Gurjar status across a range of articles. That is what appears to be going on at the moment, here and elsewhere. Most sources say Prithviraj was a Rajput and I've yet to find one that says he was a Gurjar. I recently removed the Rajput claim itself because the cited sources were either unreliable or didn't in fact verify the claim. However, I'll be reinstating it shortly and referencing eminently suitable sources.

If the Gurjar POV-pushers want to take me on then now is the time to provide your evidence. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 18:58, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Examples supporting Rajput claim include [3], [4], [5], [6], [7] and [8]. There are in fact hundreds of them. It is this ridiculous POV-pushing that caused the article to be protected in the past and it really does need to stop. - Sitush (talk) 19:06, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sitush. I see that you are assisting in protecting this page against unreliable sourced edits. Thank you for that. I am also trying to locate if there is any verifiable "Gurjar" comment. Although, I myself would have stated something else, but lack of verifiable stuff is not worth adding. That too something in relation to clan. However, I tried to find some references to it, and landed at some history pages, which briefly state the "Gurjar" clan lineage, and also some places state him to have been adopted as a "Gurjar", although he was a "Rajput". However, since there was no concrete proof in any of them, I am not linking them here. If you find something, please add here to cross check. Jai Jinendra. Vishal Bakhai - Works 14:14, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

  • Ethnography: castes and tribes, Volume 2, Part 5, is not viewable and therefore not verifiable.[9]
  • Some Problems of Ancient Indian History. Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland (Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain & Ireland). XXIII: 651. This checks out, however, Hoernle states, the "Chohans" were a prominant clan., then why are the "Chohans" only mentioned once in the entire journal? This appears to be an arbitrary statement without any real linear pattern. This coupled with the date of this journal, 1904, is reason enough to doubt its veracity.
  • Early Chauhān dynasties: a study of Chauhān political history, Chauhān political institutions, and life in the Chauhān dominions, from 800 to 1316 A.D., is not viewable and therefore not verifiable. According to a number of scholars, the Agnikula class were originally Gurjaras. Which can not be used as a source, unless that source also states the Agnikula were Rajputs(ie. Prithviraj Chauhan). To use one source to establish the Agnikula were Gurjaras and another source to establish Agnikula were Rajputs is synthesis.
  • The Glory that was Gujardesh, (1943), Indian writer K. M. Munshi. This author is not an academic historian, he was a lawyer and politician, and therefore has no specialization in this field and is not a reliable source.
  • Chota Nagpore, a little-known province of the empire, Francis Bradley Bradley-Birt, was a diplomat and writer, not a historian, and therefore not a reliable source. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:14, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
The sock (a sock?) has been blocked now - see Chauhan1192 (talk · contribs). - Sitush (talk) 16:33, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Having Gurjar clan origin makes Prithviraj Chauhan no lesser rajput. If that way clan origin of an individual has to be considered, than origin of this Mankind will reach to ancients to Adam and Eve. Lets not fight-over with these facts as clan origin will lead nowhere, and consider the what he was called during that ERA. Most of the ancient books found called Prithviraj as Rajput, origin may defer based on findings. Lets keep history of identity(which says PRC as Rajput) seperated with origin(be it gurjar/rajput).--Himanshu

privithviraj chaohan was gurjar u saying rajput ? how u guys are playing with history?? see the reference here --kggochar http://www.scribd.com/doc/37781766/Prithviraj-Chauhan and http://www.gujjarnation.com/articles/gujjar-history-by-ali-hassan-chauhan-gurjar.html and one more https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12058655-prithviraj-chauhan the rajput page also http://rajputras.blogspot.in/2011/02/prathviraj-chauhan.html

Thus Narayan was a famous town, from where roads were going on all sides, It was destroyed by Mahmud of Ghazna. Afterwards, Ajmer was founded which was conquered by Muhammad Ghauri in 1192. Ranthambhore the last stronghold of Chauhan Gurjars fell into the hands of Alladdin Khilji in about 1300 A.D.

A group of Chauhans migrated to Multan but they were not allowed to settle there by the Muslim Governor of Multan. The party crossed the river Sutlej and marched towards the East along the Southern bank of the river. Near a rivulet Markand, they found Rajpura now a town in District Patiala. Two or three years later, Muslim Governor of Sirhind ousted them from Rajpura. The party marched further East. One family of theirs found a village Nav Rana on the western side of the river Jamna (Yamuna) now district Panipat (Haryana) India. They call themselves by the same old name Chhamn or Chauhan. Three brothers namely, Kalsha Raj, Deo Raj and Deep Raj Chauhan crossed the river Jamna.

In those days there were forests on both sides of the river which lasted to the beginning of the twentieth century. Kalsha Raj Chauhan, the eldest brother founded Kai-Rana and possessed an area of 83 villages called Chaurasi. The affix Kai means great. Kai Thal means great or vast campared to high land. The great Thal has a town by the same name Kai Thal (India). In Persian, which is a branch of Sanskrit, the affix Kai is used in the same sense. Khusro means small ruler (Rana) so Kai Khsurao is synonymous to Kai Rana. One of the sons of Kalsha Raj Chauhan namely Rao Kumbha found Khandraol (Khand-Rao-Ii ie Rao wali Khand or Rao’s share of land) on Sunday the 10th Sudi Phalgun 1421 V.E. corresponding to the last week of February. 1364 A.D. (probably 26.2.1364). In 15th Century A.D. conversion to Islam ensured. The eldest brother in every house embraced Islam, one Muslim Gujar of Mandawar found a village namely Rana Majra which is now on the western bank of river Jamna due to the diversion of the river.

  1. http://www.scribd.com/doc/37781766/Prithviraj-Chauhan is a mirror site of Wikipedia. Wikipedia can not be used to reference Wikipedia.
  2. http://www.gujjarnation.com/articles/gujjar-history-by-ali-hassan-chauhan-gurjar.html , no citations, no background on the author, unpublished. Gujjar website making claims someone is Gujjar, not very original.
  3. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12058655-prithviraj-chauhan also information from Wikipedia. See 1.
  4. http://rajputras.blogspot.in/2011/02/prathviraj-chauhan.html , blogs are not considered reliable sources. --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:20, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

ok blocks are nt considered first u see the ur reference link which one is too a wikipedia based link lol now i m giving u a link , 1. #you read the histoyr at page no 36 and 87 , then decide what is right and what is wrong with coming out from castes http://books.google.co.in/books?id=-aw3hRAX_DgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=prithviraj+chauhan+was+gujjar&hl=en&sa=X&ei=auZ0VMq-KoGhugSMkIKgCw&ved=0CEcQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q&f=false #kgmotsar

FYI, Horace Arthur Rose was not a historian and his writing(s) are clearly outdated. And, "Moreover to be perfectly frank, the present writer is not quite as convinced as he was of the Gujar origin of the Rajputs", directly quoted from the pages you mentioned. --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:54, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

actually you guys are paid by someone dont wants to show correct history according to you all history writers were fool who ever wrote prithivraj as gujjar ethinic group , carry on — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kggochar (talkcontribs) 03:28, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Then whomever is paying you should learn how to find reliable sources to push their POV. Happy Thanksgiving! --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:45, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia mirror site[edit]

This:http://www.prithvirajfoundation.com/about_prithviraj_chouhan.php, is a mirror of wikipedia and should not be used as a reference. --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:42, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Good call. For historical sujbects such as this there should in any case be no need to cite any website. Folks, please can we just stick with academic sources here? - Sitush (talk) 22:57, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2015[edit]

First Battle of Tarain

The First Battle of Tarain (Taraori) was fought between Sultan Mohammad Ghori and Prithviraj Chauhan in 1191 near the town of Tarain in Haryana. The army of Mohammed Ghori was defeated by the Rajput army of Chauhan.

Details: The Western Punjab was already annexed by Mohammed Ghori. The provinces of Eastern Punjab were within the control of Prithviraj Chauhan. As an initial step, Mohammed Ghori stormed the strategic fortress of Bathinda, which was situated within the dominion of Prithviraj Chauhan.

The fall of the fortress of Bathinda awakened Prithviraj to the gravity of the strong Mohammed’s invasion. He promised revenge and set out with an army against Mohammed. The Rajput army completely dominated the battle. In the first battle of Tarain in 1191 A.D, Prithviraj routed the Gurid army by the prowess of his arms.

Mohammed Ghori was badly injured and fled from the battleground. The victory at Tarain was the last flicker of the extinguishing lamp of Hindu valor. Prithviraj followed up his success by taking possession of the fort of Bathinda from the invaders.

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Second Battle of Tarain

It is also said that Raja of Kannauj Jaichand helped and invited Gori to teach Prithviraj a lesson.

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Prithvi rahul (talk) 20:04, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 20:57, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 27 June 2015[edit]

There is a lot that can be edited about Prithviraj chauhan like his battles with jaichand rathore and this love story with Jaichand Rathores daughter. Even his battles witth ghori are not descripttive like in the 2nd battle of tarain his bannermen were not able to respond on time and how prithviraj tried to buy time please try to add more things in tthis article would be grateful. Divyrajsingh (talk) 18:28, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 18:33, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 June 2015[edit]

Second Battle of Tarain Main article: Second Battle of Tarain On his return to Ghazni, Mu'izz made preparations to avenge the defeat. According to Firishta, the Rajput army consisted of 3,000 elephants, 300,000 cavalry and infantry, most likely a gross exaggeration.[12] Minhaj-i-Siraj, stated Mu'izz brought 120,000 fully armored men to the battle in 1192.[13] [1]

Prithviraj had called his banners but hoped to buy time as his banners (other Rajputs under him or his allies) had not arrived. Before the next day, Mu'izz attacked the Rajput army before dawn. Rajputs had a tradition of fighting from sunrise to sunset. Although they were able to quickly form formations, they suffered losses due to surprise attack before sunrise. Rajput army was eventually defeated and Prithviraj was taken prisoner and subsequently executed.[14] [2] Divyrajsingh (talk) 19:54, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Bazj (talk) 14:41, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

References

General questions analysis regarding the affairs during the medival ages[edit]

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.133.243.50 (talk) 07:33, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Prithviraj chauhan maybe indeed a great fighter but not a king. See how Md. Ghori if got one chance tried to occupied entire north. When prithviraj chauhan got the chance he should have mixed entire pakistan/afganisthan into his kingdom. But he had taken some money or so and let him sent.

It is a general tendency of a king to expand his kingdom by waging many wars but when he got the chance he left it. He should have expanded his kingdom or he should have asked the release of other kings who lost their kingdoms at the hands of afghans inexchange for Md. Ghori / afghan prisoners.

It can be understood clearly that to generate a strong army it needs huge amount of money and lot of training required but within one year Md. Ghori made it after facing huge losses. This only shows what kind of mentality Md. Ghori is? Instead of paying salaries he had given the territories of Prithviraj chauhan and his friendly kingdoms before hand(war) itself. Or he had got the help from some others rulers inexchange for some benefits after war.

Privthviraj chauhan had experience with many indian kings who wage war with their money and property but not have expected such things. Like distribution of others property before the starting of the war itself.

The sentiments of the Indians are so routed because of his marriage with samyogitha who is his sister by relation.

He left Md. Ghori when caught but had killed Alha and Udal when caught why is this partiality?

The war made is mostly religious war. If prithviraj chauhan had accepted Islam he would have been released on the same day itself as I think , otherwise he would be kept in prison and kept such an environment till he be converted to islam. It is seen that many kings had faced this problem. Even the kings of present day pakistan also forcebly converted to islam. We donot know from where they are getting such courage to convert people to islam by force.

It is mentioned that there is muslim rule till 1857 but it is not so. It is Md Ghori to Babur the region is afghans and from Babur to East India company it is persians and from East India to Republic it is Britons. It is also thought that muslims and christans are related to each other by their ancestral origins and much of the medieval history is based on their thoughts and ideas. It is said that persians came to India and developed the kingdom during the reign of akbar but why did they left afghanisthan which is in between persia and India.

Even the persians are forcibly converted to islam by invaders and many of the persians took refugee at gujarat to evade the wrath of intruders at persia and be converted to islam. It is said that even the ancestors of ratan tata came from persia and took refugee here in India. I donot know how much truth it is.

The medivals age wars are made mainly religious and not territorial as far as I know. It can be crusades or any..... to protect their beliefs. Muslims and Hindus are different entities. Trojan war took place around the same time of mahabharat in India. Trojan war at present day turkey and Mahabharat in India near haryana. These muslims / christians are a barrier between turkey(turks) and India(Hindus). In wikipedia enclosures and many places it is clearly mentioned that those people (trojans) escaped are later came to know as romans and britons. Those people who giveup to muslims may go to turkey. This is my views and may or maynot be true.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.6.61.76 (talk) 14:48, 17 August 2015 (UTC) 

Status of Delhi after 400 years[edit]

   During/ Around 1500 AD there are three prominent persons 1. Rana Sanga(to capture territory) 2. Babur ( to have descendants) 3. Sri Krishna deva raya(welfare of countrymen) After the battle between Babur and Rana Sanga. Babur with his army marched towards south to help Deccan Sultans to fight against Sri Krishna Deva Rayalu and destroy southern land Vijayanagaram Empire and make India as a Turkish country.
  During that time three leaders sacrificed their lives for different issues the first one is Babur to get a heir and second one is Sri Krishna Devaraya for the sake of his countrymen third one is Rana sanga for the sake of country land.
  There are lot similarities between Sri Krishnadevarayalu and Akbar in various aspects. Akbar & Birbal is similar to Sri Krishnadevarayalu and Tenali Rama. Akbar is famous for having discussions among scholars same as Sri Krishnadevarayalu for having discussions among scholars at that time. In many aspects such as war etc ..... If life after life exists and if Akbar and Sri Krishnadevarayalu are one and the same then one day we try to build the statue of Sri Krishnadevarayalu at the entrance of Redfort.

Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2015[edit]

the battle between Prithvi raj Chauhan and ghori was not for just one two infact 17 times ghori army lost to prithvi raj Chauhan. Snrrtimes (talk) 20:13, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

This is not supported by historical documents. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:36, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
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More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 20:48, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

SOME ONE DELIBERATELY WANT TO PROVE PRITHVI RAJ CHAUHAN AS A GURJAR KING[edit]

Wikipedia will surely loose it's credibility due to it's fake contributors who delibrately wants to ruin History. See for eg. the page of Prithvi Raj Chauhan a Rajput Ruler , to whom wikipedia delibrately wants to prove as a Gurjar.

Please edit and remove gurjar word from this article all the versions of Prithviraj Raso and Prithvi Vijay and other texts clearly mentions him as a 'Rajput'. I am pasting the link of Prithvi Vijay Authors can read that and improve other articles as well.

http://asi.nic.in/asi_books/8401.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.14.175.114 (talk) 07:32, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

I have changed the rubbish Gurjar theory from the article. Those who wants to prove prithviraj chauhan as a Gurjar King must read Prithvi Vijay and should know that H A Rose was not a Historian and moreover he was also confused over Gurjara origin of Agnikula Kshatriyas. His theory is based on the probable origin which can not be referred as an historical fact. He was not able to prove his theory with help of conclusive facts or evidences. Hence his version of history is disregarded in India and should not be used as a reference for any of the Wiki article. He also tried to prove Parmaras, Solankis of Gurjara origin which was also baseless and were not based on circumstantial evidences. Therefore, please remove all the references of H A Rose where they have been given to recognize a caste. Rajput Sirdar (talk) 09:14, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2015[edit]

I think we can mention about the tomb of Prithviraj Chauhan in Afghanistan near to Ghori's tomb [multiple citations including Indian Express journal "Ghazni's best-kept secret", The book "Arms and Armour: Traditional Weapons of India" by E Jaiwant Paul ]. Locals in Afghanistan also believe that Ghori was killed by imprisoned Prithviraj Chauhan. Raviranjanjha (talk) 23:50, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

E Jaiwant Paul, is not an historian and appears to simply be a director of some corporations. Therefore, Paul is not a reliable source. As for "The Indian Express" journal, the lines, "Legend has it....", would clearly indicate this information is not to be taken as historical fact.
  • "Locals in Afghanistan also believe that Ghori was killed by imprisoned Prithviraj Chauhan."
So? The Encyclopaedia of Islam, written by an academic and edited by academics, state Ghori was assassinated in 1206, years after the 2nd battle of Tarain. FYI, Wikipedia is written using published sources, not what "someone believes". --Kansas Bear (talk) 05:50, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Prithviraj Chauhan was not gujjar He was Rajput King[edit]

Prithviraj Chauhan was rajput king of chauhan dynasty.  ! He was not gujjar please change it.! Some mentle has edited it wrong. Jaipalsinh122 (talk) 13:44, 7 March 2016 (UTC) Prithviraj Chauhan was Gujjari In History He said to be Rajput because he was son of King. Rajput is no caste they were Thakur who clam themselves Rajput's near sharanpur (U.P)there are around 80 village s of Parmar and Chauhan Gujjars I knw many of them because I have family relation with Chauhan Gujjars and also near Ajmar there are many village s who call themselves Chauhan Gujjars and in Delhi to. Prithviraj Chauhan was Gujjar from caste and this is truth Which I came to knw from Chauhan Gujjars who's forefathers fights war alongside with Prithviraj Chauhan.yes he was Rajput but Not Thakur He was Gujjar Rajput as I am so stop this discussion and make a team and go to this village and Ajmar u will find truth there.And also check history books 700 to 1200 era was called Gujjar prathihar vans Era and before that Kanishk the great the Gujjar King greeks call me Baisillo which means RoYAL this is around 50 A.C to next hundr years he and is sons rule here.we Gujjars are backwards because we fight with every threat to our country they were Muslims aur British 1857 revolt go and search who started Meerut revot the war between Gujjars and British which go on for 7 days Go and search plzzz we Gujjars are defender of our country.we are born fighters plzz support us we love our country but plzz we don't want any credit we knw who we are and what we are capable of.Jai Hind Jai Gujjar Desh

Semi-protected edit request on 20 March 2016[edit]

Please link to Gahadvala instead of Gaharwal (e.g. spouse). Gahadvala page on Wikipedia is much more detailed and both pages talk about the same clan. 73.222.106.236 (talk) 21:52, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —Skyllfully (talk | contribs) 03:02, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2016[edit]

Prithviraj Chauhan's year of birth is recorded as 1149. The citation for the entire sentence has been given as Encyclopedia Britannica. While checking the same source it was found that the date mentioned there is 1166 CE. Thus, a difference of 17 years is reflected in the age due to this error. Hence, it is kindly requested to change the date to the one in Britannica or provide a separate reference for the date mentioned here in Wikipedia. Britannica

Krishkochi (talk) 18:54, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

You're bringing up a very interesting case of potentially false information on Wikipedia. For other editors, please see Special:Diff/376908693 and Special:Permalink/276466757, which has dates around the late 1160s. I'm tempted to believe that 1149 was a piece of vandalism back in 2008 or 2009 which has persisted to this day. Someone else should take another look. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 06:48, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 Done: It may not have been vandalism, because I have found the birth years 1149, 1166 and 1168 in separate sources. This is a bit ticklish; however it needs attendance, so I have returned the c. 1166 date to this article. The Britannica source along with several Indian story pages, which sometimes also use 1168 or 1149, should support and justify the use of the Circa template.  OUR Wikipedia (not "mine")! Paine  12:44, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2016[edit]

It is mentioned here that Prithviraj Chauhan was executed in second battle of Tahrain. But According to PRITHVIRAJ RASO, Prithviraj was not killed by Mohd. Ghori but actually he and Chand Bardai after being caught by Ghori, played a trick and killed Mohd. Ghori.Prithviraj got blinded by Ghori, so Chand Bardai chanted the lines so that Prithviraj could precisely understand the location of Mohd. Ghori- ‘’CHAAR BAANS CHAUBEES GAJ ANGUL ASHT PRAMAAN, TAA UPAR SULTAN HAI MAT CHUKO CHAUHAN’’ hearing which Prithviraj located Mohd. Ghori and killed him using his special archery art of ‘’ Shabd Bhedi Baad Vidya’’. After that Prithviraj and Chand Bardai stabbed each other as written in PRITHVIRAJ RASO.

SahilSood7 (talk) 16:55, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

This had been addressed over and over. According to The Encyclopaedia of Islam, Prithviraj was executed in 1192, wile Ghori was assassinated in 1206. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:27, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, as the article on Prithviraj Raso states, it is full of legends that are not historically reliable. utcursch | talk 21:11, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Birth year of Prithviraja is 1168[edit]

Please edit the year Rita Nikumbh (talk) 15:24, 22 March 2017 (UTC)