Talk:Professional shogi player

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attribution note[edit]

Most of the content the Professional players and Female professionals section originated from the Players section of the Japan Shogi Association article. It was copied from there on 2017 nov 19. – ishwar  (speak) 20:59, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

List of professional players[edit]

Was wondering is a list of current professionals is still wanted for this article. While I can see the merit of such a list, I can also see how it might be something more suited for a stand-alone list article as well. By my count there are currently 164 kishi, 56 joryu kishi and 7 LPSA pros active. Obviously, if this information is added the separate lists for male and female would be needed, but then the lists could be further divided up in any number of ways. The JSA categorizes by title holders (significance of title) and dan (date of promotion), whereas the LPSA seems to go by badge number. One advantage of a stand-alone list would be that more information could be added for each individual entry and retired/deceased pros could also be added. Hatnotes could then be added to relevant sections of this article for male and female pros.

If, however, the consensus is that this information should be included in this article, then how it should be added and how much information should be added probably would be a good thing to discuss. Once the formating has been resolved, it's basically just adding the names to the section. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:53, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

i dont know. Seems like it could be added to this article or as a separate article. Only issue i see is whether one has a preference for shorter articles (separate list article is better) or one wants the list to be more easily found (list inside the main article is better). The 2nd issue can be helped by adding lots of links to the list in other articles (like maybe adding to the See also section in every individual player's page or something?).
one thing i would like to have is all professional players in at least some list including dead folks, folks without badge numbers (some historical folks), folks that left the system for whatever reason that the JSA makes somewhat of invisible on their website (like Hayashiba). I think a list with all current players is good since that info may be needed when learning about the presentday pro scene. But, it's equally good to get a full picture of the past.
seems like wikipedia tends to put lists in separate articles in general (for better or worse). – ishwar  (speak) 18:48, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
Perhaps a "List of professional shogi players" could be the article, and it then it could be broken up into various subsections to include those like Hayashiba, etc. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:52, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

new women rules[edit]

New rules for women with a point system:

https://www.shogi.or.jp/faq/joryu-kitei.html

ishwar  (speak) 18:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC)