Talk:Progress in artificial intelligence

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Excuse me, but why are all of these board games listed? There is no explanation for what they are supposed to represent. It is useless information for the article. Contralya (talk) 17:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

The article shows problems that have been solved to varying degrees by artificial intelligence researchers and indicates the level of performance one can achieve with an AI algorithm. Board games are well-defined problems and so are easier to tackle than more open-ended problems (generally speaking). While the results might appear useless to some they have required advances in the theory and practice of AI and are important in that respect. You have to walk before you can run. Pgr94 (talk) 17:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Machine translation[edit]

How should machine translation be classified? People knowing a second language often perform better than machine translation systems but the average person might be less capable. Also, if we take into account multiple languages, machine translation systems like google translate would significantly outperform most humans. How many people can translate from arabic -> polish and french -> swahili and armenian -> vietnamese. Over several languages machines win hands-down. pgr94 (talk) 22:22, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I think it should stay where it is might it could use a comment noting machines higher versitality in the field as you noted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:09, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I added a comment to the article as suggested. Feel free to improve on it. pgr94 (talk) 22:27, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Rubics Cube[edit]

There has been some back and fourth editing regarding rubics cube and there seems to be a disperancy betwen users regarding what solving rubics cube constitutes to.

Since the optimal solution, aka the one requireing the least ammount of moves from every starting position is not yet known, i would list the game as strong super human but not optimal, as currently is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:02, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

In Optimal solutions for Rubik's Cube it says: "In 1997 Richard Korf[5] announced an algorithm with which he had optimally solved random instances of the cube." Are you suggesting that this is wrong or that it is optimal only for some cube starting positions? pgr94 (talk) 22:15, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


In an edit comment Charles Gillingham asked who developed the 5-level classification:

optimal: it is not possible to perform better
strong super-human: performs better than all humans
super-human: performs better than most humans
par-human: performs similarly to most humans
sub-human: performs worse than most humans

The short answer is, I did. However, the levels are explicitly mentioned in the various articles cited. I suspect we won't find a single reference that mentions them all, but they are there in the literature. My edits may be running a bit close to WP:SYN, so I'm open to other opinions on the matter. pgr94 (talk) 09:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

I suppose you could argue that it's commonsense. It's certainly not some egregious violation of WP:SYN, in my view anyway. Thanks for being so straight forward about it. I only noticed it because I'm going through the AI article and redoing the citations and along the way I ran into a few topics that were missing a citation and this was one of them. I'll leave the tag in AI and remove it here. ---- CharlesGillingham (talk) 05:48, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Game shows[edit]

Today Watson beat the two Jeopardy champions. It is well above merely "par-human" —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:03, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Watson was also beaten by a U.S. congressman: It also doesn't do speech recognition, so it plays with an unfair advantage against human players. Admittedly, the congressman is a former Jeopardy champion. But should we be citing a couple Watson victories to support Watson's playing at superhuman level? I figure the claim is probably right, so I'm not removing it, but it would be nice to see a source that talks explicitly about fair comparisons between Watson's play and most human play. However, here are two other bases for doubt: (1) I've heard (only by word of mouth) that Watson can be beaten by an average human who knows how to exploit a couple weaknesses in Watson's play; (2) Watson depends heavily on human prepping, so some claim it might be better to call it a supplement to human intelligence and not really artificial intelligence. Wikipedia really shouldn't be deciding this question. —Ben Kovitz (talk) 22:49, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Go citation[edit]

The citation for computers being par-human at go is wikipedia itself. Is this acceptable? (could not find the wikipedia guideline on this)

No, such a citation is not acceptable: WP:CIRCULAR. I just removed it. The claim is clearly true, but I wasn't able to (quickly) find a source that supports it directly. Can you find one? —Ben Kovitz (talk) 22:27, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Driving cars[edit]

At the moment driverless cars are listed both in the section "Super-human" ("Driving a car: super-human. Google driverless cars are safer and smoother when steering themselves than when a human takes the wheel.") and "Sub-human" ("Autonomous driverless cars"). One of the two has to be wrong? (talk) 18:05, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Most everyday tasks performed by humans[edit]

What are "Most everyday tasks performed by humans"? This is vague. Instead, can you name the everyday tasks performed by humans that an artificial intelligence does at a sub-human level? --Mschribr (talk) 14:22, 11 January 2015 (UTC)