Talk:Propaganda (band)

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NPOV[edit]

Its fairly obvious that someone sympathetic to the band (or, conversely, with an axe to grind against ZTT) has written large chunks of this article. For someone who's trying to find out about the band's history, to be confronted with long descriptions of who did what to whom, and when, and where, and for how much, is not really salient or helpful information. At the very least put the bilious bits in a separate section. Daen 11:55, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

cleanup tag added[edit]

The paragraph that starts with "Interesting enough" is in terrible shape. Joriki 05:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

  • I've taken a run at it. If there are furtehr changes needed, please go ahead and make them. Ground Zero | t 18:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

'In 1990, Mertens returned with a new Propaganda line-up' Who is Mertens? Why doesn't he get a proper introduction before starting a paragraph about him forming a new line-up? His full name isn't mentioned untill several paragraphs later. stasis101 11:36, 15 June 2006 (GMT + 01:00)

Mertens is covered in the first paragraph.

Citations[edit]

The vast majority of the article is not cited. This wouldn't be a concern, to me, if it's readily verifiable information, but this article talks about feuds with management, something I never heard about and something this article doesn't cite. --WilliamC24 05:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Propaganda - P-Machinery excerpt.ogg[edit]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

NPOV reply[edit]

Today I removed the statement that Andreas Thein was forced to leave the band due to Claudia Brucken threatening to leave if he didn't. This is I believe another example of what Daen stated above. As a fan of the band since 1985 there has never been any mention of this in any interview I've read or watched. In fact in a 1985 Melody Maker interview Michael Mertens stated that there were differences between Thein and the rest of Propaganda as to the direction they wanted to take their music. The tonal shift between the singles "Dr. Mabuse" (which Thein co-wrote) and "Duel" should be evidence enough of that.

While I agree with much of what Daen and WilliamC24 have stated I would add that at least the court case between Propaganda and ZTT is relevant as that was the manner that ZTT seemed to regard its artists at that time. The highly-publicised case between the label and former Frankie Goes To Hollywood singer Holly Johnson epitomised this. However Propaganda's court case, which preceded Johnson's, was very low-key in comparison, which may explain why WilliamC24 had heard nothing about it.

But I agree that many more citations are needed - and anything that is nothing more than accusations or finger-pointing should be removed. CynicalNurse (talk) 11:16, 29 December 2015 (UTC) <srmall>— Preceding unsigned comment added by Huffy1968 (talkcontribs) 11:06, 29 December 2015 (UTC)