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Special administrative regions[edit]

The article says " The Special Administrative Regions of Hong Kong and Macau are officially considered to be province-level as well, though in reality they have much more autonomy than regular provinces, autonomous regions, or municipalities. ".

Nowhere in the PRC's constitution or in the basic laws of the two SARs says SARs are designated province level. They are local administrative regions come directly under the Central People's Government (note: ≠ State Council). Autonomous regions, provinces and municipalities are listed in the same sentence of Article 30 of the constitution, which governs the administrative divisions of the PRC. SARs are governed by Article 31. — Instantnood 19:17, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)

Aksai Chin[edit]

The map showing the provinces of China according to the ROC has a designation for Aksai Chin as territory "claimed by India, administered by PRC". But since this map is based on the ROC's claims, the question should be whether it is claimed by the ROC, with India's claims not being the subject here. --Metropolitan90 23:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

It should be added that iı's also claimed by ROC, like "claimed by PRC and ROC".88.247.101.145 (talk) 21:04, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

removal of Chinese text[edit]

cgy01, Wikipedia is not space-deficient, and obviously there is some disagreement with your removal. "I want a..." sounds like a violation of WP:OWN. This is everyone's article, your aesthetics are only one consideration. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 15:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

cgy01, this is not a "little" change, and watch your uncivil edit summaries. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 01:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Do not abuse my talk page with your misplaced edits, use this article's talkpage. or move on and do something productive. your removal won't stand. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 14:23, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Kintetsubuffalo, you are not the admin of wikipedia, who are you to say my removal won't stand?

who do you think you are? really? wikipedia is for the community, why do you get to be the boss and why is it that all edits must receive your approval? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgy01 (talkcontribs) 02:13, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I will not even dignify this user with a response, after the racist vomit it left on my talkpage. Instead I have applied for WP:3O. The removal of the traditional Chinese is unwarranted, the provinces themselves predate the use of simplified Chinese, so researchers and those with old maps will certainly find the old glyphs useful. "I want a clean page" is not a valid reason for removal of the characters, and smacks of a violation of WP:OWN. This is everyone's article, one user's decisions are only one consideration. I submit this for the third opinion. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 13:12, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

changes needed to be made[edit]

most populous city should be removed as this is typically the same as the capital.. also the Chinese characters for the province capitals should be re-added. I added them a couple of years ago (w/ pinyin too!) and someone took it out —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.151.8.160 (talk) 19:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

3O on Traditional and Simplified Characters[edit]

The page containing both types of characters does not appear to be unnecessarily cluttered, and the traditional characters to add valuable and interesting information, and they do make sense from a historical perspective because many (most?) of the names pre-date the introduction of simplified characters. Readin (talk) 14:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

3O on Province only list or Province-level division list[edit]

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Um, it's sort of hard to give a third opinion without seeing any sort of discussion. Can someone explain what's been going on here? — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 03:29, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Well the problem is this is a Province page which suppose to only show provinces only. Comparing to Autonomous Region showing only Autonomous Region, Direct-controlled municipality showing only Municipalities, and Special Administrative Region showing only Special Administrative Region but Cgy01 insist of using a Province-level list which there is already one located at Administrative_divisions_of_China#Province_level and this page only suppose to represent Provinces not the whole province-level division. — ASDFGH =] talk? 03:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

This map is like a superset though, it has all the provinces and autonomous regions when people search for China provinces they just want to see a map of China and how it is seperated, they won't know to do a search of things like china municipalities and china autonomous regions, if you want people to goto your autonomous regions page and specific municipalities page then you should make a link on the provinces page, but i don't think you need to be so detailed to change the map to have "provinces only".. that is being a little anal. -cgy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgy01 (talkcontribs) 04:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

We have a Administrative divisions of China page thats where your list should go that the super-set! Also we are not talking only talking about the map also the list. There is a reason why there is a sidebar on the right side that allow people to see there are more that one division under province-level division. Like I said this is a "Province" page there is a reason why we have "Province" page and a "Province-level" page. They are not the same thing this is a "encyclopedia" which suppose to sort out. You are also saying that the other Province-level divisions are the same thing as Province. An example, Special Administrative Region (a Province-level division) which enjoy more rights are the same as province which are rule by a Committee Secretary under the central government not a Chief Executive and its own laws. That is what you are saying if you put your list on this "Province" page. You are also generalizing that "they won't know to do a search of things like china municipalities and china autonomous regions." — ASDFGH =] talk? 05:03, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

ahh i see now, yes this is the page i was looking for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_China okay i agree w/ your changes Chan (talk) 01:01, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


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Leadership of provinces[edit]

The article as it reads simply states that the secretary of the Communist Party's provincial committee is the leader of each province, as opposed to the governor of the province. This may in fact be demonstrably the case, but it can't simply be declared: it's certainly disputable, and needs to be backed up by evidence. --Jammoe (talk) 17:01, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

image error[edit]

Fujian province is missing a "22" in the map. Otherwise, fabulous work. Tooironic (talk) 00:11, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Omissions[edit]

Perhaps there should be some kind of mention of other regions that may not officially be provinces. For example, there is no mention of Tibet, Xinjiang, Guangxi, Chongqing and the special city districts (Beijing, Shanghai and Tianjin). None of these are mentioned in the table or text. The image is not loading for me right now so I can't be sure if they are shown there. Ninjawailer (talk) 09:09, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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Page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Province (China)Provinces of the People's Republic of China – similar to other "Provinces of _____" articles. — ASDFGH =] talk? 01:27, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

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Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress on Template talk:Administrative levels and divisions of the People's Republic of China sidebar which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 17:01, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

[edit]

Is it necessary to mark Taiwan as "dead"? The symbol is inappropriate.--77.0.111.59 (talk) 19:02, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

That is not what that means. It signifies that there is a footnote attached. 75.156.68.21 (talk) 23:07, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Precision[edit]

Provinces (Chinese: 省; pinyin: Shěng), formally province-level administrative divisions (Chinese: 省级行政区; pinyin: Shěng Jí Xíngzhèngqū) are the highest-level Chinese administrative divisions. There are 34 such divisions, classified as 22 provinces, 4 municipalities, 5 autonomous regions, 2 Special Administrative Regions, and the claimed Taiwan Province.

This passage doesn't indicate we are talking about PRC. The Republic of China on Taiwan also states in its laws that Taiwan is part of China, so does RC claim the whole PRC and more. It must be made clear that PRC and RC claim each other, it's not only the PRC. --2.245.192.184 (talk) 14:06, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

I agree. I have made some changes to the wording. Tooironic (talk) 12:15, 31 March 2015 (UTC)