Talk:Puerto Peñasco

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Can someone explain this statement to me: "The climate is dry and hot with an average year round high temperature of 84 °F (28.7 °C),[1] but temperatures as high as 122 °F (50°C) are not uncommon in the summer."

Except the chart below this statement says that the record high is 112 °F? How can temps of 122 be common when the record high is 10 degrees lower? This makes no sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.39.88.241 (talk) 15:13, 17 October 2014 (UTC) This may have something to do with how the record high temperature is "determined" for a whole month in the chart, such as in August which has 31 days and nights; (it may be a mean, average or minimum-high). So the "not uncommon" does not mean that the stated high temperature lasts an entire month long, (which could be another interpretation of the chart). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.183.224.2 (talk) 22:50, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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town is involved in "war against drugs"[edit]

Jul 25, 2012 5:12 PM PDT By Phil Benson

ROCKY POINT, MEXICO (CBS5) - Six people, including a police officer, died in gun battles that erupted in Rocky Point last week, according to Sonoran state police. The shootings happened Thursday around 6 p.m. along one of the beach town's main streets.

http://www.kpho.com/story/19114611/report-6-dead-in-rocky-point-gun-battles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.122.94 (talk) 06:00, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]



Puerto Peñasco became an important transit point for the Sinaloa Cartel in about 2007, U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration officials said. Occasional shootings have occurred among underworld groups, and the city's police chief was shot and wounded during a traffic stop in 2010.

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/rocky-point-death-toll-hits-in-thurs-shootings/article_f99d2a75-e975-599c-a191-db328728242d.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.122.94 (talk) 06:02, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Arizona's Beach?[edit]

The introductory paragraph states that Puerto Peñasco “has been nicknamed "Arizona’s beach" as it is the coast closest to the major cities of Phoenix, Tucson, and Yuma. I disagree with including Yuma. I have not been able to check the cited references.

I have done my own original research using Google Maps and come up with three beaches that are closer to Yuma:

  1. El Golfo Santa Clara, Sonora, 90 miles
  2. Mission Bay, San Diego, California, 178 miles
  3. San Felipe, Baja California, 179 miles
  4. Puerto Peñasco, Sonora, 180 miles

I do agree that Puerto Peñasco is the closest beach to most points in Arizona and most people in Arizona. You can call it Arizona’s beach if you want. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yanacochito (talkcontribs) 23:45, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Suspicious climate data[edit]

The climate of this city is surprisingly cold in all months, compared to nearby cities. It's also suspicious that 44°C occurs in three months throughout the winter of 1961, and that 8°C occurs in three months in the summer of 1958. I suspect a bad data source throughout this period, which was never rejected by the official tabulator of the data. More believable climate stats are at this site, but this is apparently not what the Mexican weather service is currently calling official. Soap 22:59, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't notice until just now that this has also been disputed by others. I will return to this as soon as I can. It looks like, for now, we've rejected the all-time highs and lows (which are the first things I noticed) but kept the averages. I was suspicious of even the averages, but it looks like the climate of the area is complex ... compare Mexicali to Ensenada for example ... and the data we have now fits right in. Even so, when I get a chance to look at the PDF I want to, so I can see if there are two different data sets at play. Soap 01:33, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There are alternative sources available even from the gov't site ... there seem to be two weather stations in Puerto Peñasco ... the one that I'm suspicious of, and [1]. There is also a newer version of the original link, without the bad data from the 1950s-60s, at [2]. Thus, both stations have data up to 2010, and there must be two physical locations from which data can be sampled. We could theoretically include both, as we do for some cities elsewhere.

Even between the 1951-2010 and 1981-2010 reports of the original station, there are enormous differences. Compare again this to this. Some temperature readings differ by huge amounts , such as the maxima mensual (which we arent listing) for February being 21.8 °C (71.2 °F) in the newer list but 43.9 °C (111.0 °F) in the older. I think maxima mensual means the highest observed avg for the whole month in one given year. if so, it means the old data claims that *the entire month* of Feb 1961 averaged a high temperature of 43.9C. Soap 20:03, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently I never followed up on this. It appears that three IP's have fixed the climate data, and I dont know if they are all the same person or multiples. Thanks to all involved, Soap 14:57, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]