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QWERTZ means Quartz and that's a clock company.

No ... in German, "Quarz" means quartz. The same word as in English, just without a "t". Qwertz does not mean anything, and it is an impossible word too, since in German, a Q is always followed by a u. --87.122.11.99 (talk) 14:48, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Qwertzuiop 2804:56C:A40C:1100:B4AC:3618:C469:12CE (talk) 20:24, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no é, à, or è in german (only for borrowed words) and on usual keyboards you can type them only with key-sequences. Maybe in Switzerland it's different.

Polish[edit]

Polish keyboard also use this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.25.41.40 (talk) 14:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the map is outdated. Polish should be all green since Poles don't use QWERTZ keyboard at all. On the other hand, Denmark, along with Sweden, have their own keys: "æ", "ø", "å". So they should be green-yellow check. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.174.1.127 (talk) 09:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As a Pole using computers since around 1995 I absolutely agree with the above. I was astonished to read about the usage of the QWERTZ keyboard layout in Poland. This should be changed ASAP. Where did someone take this information from???

==Stub no more--2409:40E5:12E:FE04:D165:A92B:734:44FE (talk)===^=£… I'm listing this as a computer-hardware stub. Change it if anyone has any objections... Or just expand. I for one don't know anything about qwertz keyboards... --Comfortably numb55 (talk) 22:22, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm highly knowledgable about U.S. tyaqsmu b ugoooooooouu90- from 1970 through about 1992, and I rate myself "moderate" for computer topics prior to 2002. This article is reasonably detailed and comprehensive, so I removed the "stub" tag. -- Jo3sampl (talk) 13:41, 29 August 2011 (1

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Picture of Qwertz Germany/ Austria[edit]

Although the text is correctly stating in Germany "Ctrl" is replaced by "Strg" the picture is not and therefor wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.246.222.102 (talk) 06:58, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ctrl or Strg[edit]

Some special symbols also have a different place, and the Ctrl key is called Strg (for Steuerung, English "control", although it is sometimes misinterpreted as String).

... Only German QWERTZ keyboards have the Strg key, Swiss keyboards have the same key labeled ctrl.

Yet the picture of the German-Austrian keyboard has Ctrl, not Strg, keys.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/KB_Germany.svg/800px-KB_Germany.svg.png

64.85.240.2 (talk) 15:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On all my (German) Macs, (of 2001, 2005 and 2009, respectively) the ctrl key is called "ctrl"... -- megA (talk) 17:04, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

This article is strikingly lacking any description of the history of the QWERTZ layout. The equivalent article on QWERTY points out that the QWERTY layout originated in 1873. This QWERTZ article only mentions some standards from the late 20th century that seem to be mainly taking into account computer keyboards. Obviously, typewriters have been in use for decades before that in QWERTZ-using countries such as Germany - did they still use QWERTY back then? Otherwise, when was QWERTZ originally devised and introduced? 85.180.116.25 (talk) 22:32, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Swiss position of pipes | ¦[edit]

What's with the reported position of the pipe characters? Where does this come from? Here's a Swiss-French keyboard http://i.imgur.com/TQrVbdr.jpg These characters are swapped in many online references but I don't know whether there are two variants or they just propagated from incorrect sources. In any case, all keyboards I've used have ¦ over the 1, | over the 7; not the other way around. 2A02:AA13:8105:2500:8990:5D99:5A44:9958 (talk) 07:28, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Swiss @ is different on Macs[edit]

Swiss Mac keyboard layout appears to differ from Swiss PC keyboard layout. The Macs put the @ symbol by the G, while Windows keyboard put it by the 2. The photo only shows a Windows Swiss keyboard layout. --Sam (talk) 18:55, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Commonly-used letters near each other[edit]

The article states that QWERTZU...etc was chosen because TZ and ZU go together often and this would somehow prevent typewriter jamming. Wasn't QWERTY invented in the first place to deliberately move commonly-used letters apart from each other? Because hitting them semi-simultaneously would cause jamming.

switzerland is querty and not querz[edit]

see subject 62.2.169.30 (talk) 23:17, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bad translation[edit]

In the overview section, the 'three main reasons' are pretty much a verbatim translation of the corresponding German article here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tastaturbelegung#Besonderheiten_der_QWERTZ-Variante

However, the German original states those points as consequences, while they are mentioned as reasons in this article. Maybe that should be changed... 37.76.6.68 (talk) 10:44, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]