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There are numerous sources which state that Qingtan had nothing to do with Taoism, except insofar as it referenced books which are currently thought of as "Taoist" (e.g. in The Sociology of Philosophies) - in fact it was quite antipathetic to contemporary Taoism. This article makes it sound like a branch of mysticism or Taoism which it was not. -- (talk) 07:42, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

As it stands, this article is trivial and wrong -- badly needs update. But the "dispute" here is off as well. Qingtan was an outcome or method of the xuanxue/neotaoism of Wangbi and Guoxiang. I would ask whether the anonymous poster above might cite the "numerous sources"? The SEP article on neotaoism clearky describes the practice, and as far as i reacall, the seven worthies of the bamboo grove practiced it. ShaziDaoren (talk) 19:24, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

the ip address of the NPOV comment is rrom a known vandal on internet content. clink on the talk link, above, ShaziDaoren (talk) 19:30, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

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