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Wikified[edit]

Wikified Rlevse 17:09, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

this article is all wrong[edit]

This article is not talking about chili con queso; it is describing what is known as "queso", which just means "cheese" in spanish, but in Tex-mex cuisine, as an appetizer it means the cheese dip described here.

Chili con queso really is bean chili, with added cheese. Chili con carne is bean chili with added meat.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.155.242.18 (talkcontribs) 04:24, 6 May 2006

I disagree. I'm a native Texan and this dish is called Chili con queso on the menu in just about all of the innumerable Tex-Mex restaurants I've eaten at, even though people do just call it "queso" colloquially. I've never heard the term used in the way you assert. Now I'm in California and I really miss Tex-Mex food, especially queso. :-( 66.214.161.114 06:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Real Chili con Queso[edit]

Yeah, and not to mention the "real" Chili con Queso, which is about 3-4 different kinds of chili's roasted/stewed together, with REAL CHEESE on top (not the stuff they feed cheese - cheese food, aka velveeta), and then broiled.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.224.60.205 (talkcontribs) 20:35, 25 March 2007

Chili = the peppers, chili con carne = chili pepper with meat, chili con carne y frijoles = peppers, meat, and beans (typical Tex-Mex chili), and chili con queso = peppers and cheese. Chili con queso is NOT a bowl of chili with cheese on top. That is misunderstanding the language, like saying spaghetti alla Bolognese is Chef Boyardee glop topped with a slice of bologna.--Eeyore tim 20:40, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Chile con Queso in Iowa[edit]

the version found in a few authentic Mexican restaurants here in Iowa is always white & creamy, made with Asadero cheese ... the yellow and/or velveeta crap mentioned in the article is not Chile con Queso, it is the cheap and easy way to make Nacho dip.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.208.113.1 (talkcontribs) 23:23, 13 August 2007

As a native Texan now living in Chicago, I dispute this strongly - chile con queso can use a variety of cheeses, spices, and toppings, and the cheese does NOT have to be white. It can be an easily melting yellow cheese as well, or cheddar heavily mixed with cream. Velveeta is indeed the cheap way to make chili con queso, but you are just plain wrong that queso is always or even often white in tex-mex cuisine. It's usually yellow, though it can be white. If you are the person that put "white" all over the page, I've demanded citations on it. I disagree with you that strongly. Kenn 16:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
I think you guys are arguing about nothing. The first person said authentic Mexican restaurants make a cheese sauce with white cheese, such as Asadero. In Tex-Mex cuisine, which is wholly distinct from Mexican food, typically uses a yellow cheese, and more often, a processed cheese-food. As for all of you arguing about whether the described dish is beans or cheese or dip or stir-fry, couldn't it just be cleared up by specifying that the name "refers to a dish commonly found in American Tex-Mex restaurants"? Just a thought. Mtleslie (talk) 01:32, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, we all have our silly focuses, Mtleslie. Some of us find this important, and I think that's okay. Kenn (talk) 23:58, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Regional bias[edit]

Yet another food article on Wikipedia based on little more than, "this is how they do it in my neighborhood", and,"the place we went when I was in high school, was the first". This article is worthless without references and citations.24.165.188.30 04:09, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Why don't you come to Texas and find out for yourself? Stop at any Tex Mex restaurant and you'll find it on the menu as an appetizer! This is not just in Houston, where I live. It is statewide! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.31.98.139 (talk) 23:10, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Queso flameado/fundido[edit]

Related to Chili con queso, I have started a spin-off article about queso flameado aka queso fundido, here. The new article would be much improved by a photo. Does anyone have one? Please post it to Wikimedia Commons and drop a note on my talk page. Thanks! --Una Smith (talk) 04:20, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Comment[edit]

This is salsa con queso. Chili con queso is chili. Salsa con queso, at the moment, redirects to cheez wiz. wtf? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.130.160.74 (talk) 21:11, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Well, apparently "salsa con queso" is a Cheez Whiz product. So ttf, I guess. Drmies (talk) 21:21, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Editors, please leave the house before deleting articles.[edit]

Seeing that this article apparently references salsa con queso rather than chile con queso, and that "salsa con queso" redirects to CHEEZ WHIZ makes me think that there are a lot of Wikipedia editors deleting articles when they haven't a clue what the articles are about. Queso fundido is completely different to salsa con queso, and even chile con queso and salsa con queso have some distinctions that would warrant separate articles.

Bottom line... I REALLY doubt that Wikipedia is running out of hard drive space. Beyond that, these articles are valid and necessary... I'm sure there are lots of unneeded articles here, but I'd really prefer that articles not be deleted just because some editors haven't got out and experienced life, food, etc. Please make a point to shut off the computer once in a while and emerge from your parents' basement... Wikipedia as a whole will surely benefit.

THAAANKS!!! :) MaxVolume (talk) 02:37, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Chili or Chile[edit]

I see it used inconsistently within the article. Shouldn't we pick one and stick with it? (This obviously after taking translation into account.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.127.102.49 (talk) 07:20, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Long, long ago, before people starting talking about TexMex cuisine, there were a few Mexican restaurants around. They served chili con carne and chili con queso, both were bean-based, one had meat the other had cheese. Nobody served chips and salsa back then. It was like a chicken enchilada or a cheese enchilada, just substituting cheese for meat. I suppose not many people remember those early days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.218.152.206 (talk) 16:20, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Texas[edit]

"Everyone" knows this dish originated in Texas. Yet the article needs a citation or two to a verifiable source for that origin. Geoff Who, me? 01:11, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually, some people believe that it originated in Little Rock, Arkansas. A local restaurant allegedly first served it there in 1935 and they now host the World Cheese Dip Championship every year in Little Rock. Just go to cheesedip.net and see for yourself.

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 14:57, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


Queso sauceChile con queso – Undo move from original article, Chile con queso, to Queso. Geoff Who, me? 20:08, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
  • Comment I recently moved this page with no prior consensus; I think the name is better and more descriptive at this title. In English, to me, "chili con queso" seems like chili with cheese, while "chile con queso" makes me think of peppers with cheese on them. If there's no consensus, by the way, this page must be moved back to Chile con queso since that was the title before. Red Slash 22:18, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment it should use "chili" if it's going to be renamed -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 05:18, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Support restoring "Chile con queso" as title: web, book, and news searches on "chile chili con.queso" show a roughly equal divide between the two spellings. The L.A. Times style guide makes the distinction that chili refers to "chili con carne", and this is not about a beef dish.Novangelis (talk) 16:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Speedy revert: It seems like this should be treated as a technical request – it doesn't even need formal discussion, since it is a revert of an undiscussed change of a long-standing article name. Also, please note that the person who moved it has agreed that the recent move should be reverted if there is no consensus. —BarrelProof (talk) 00:37, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
    • As pointed out by Red Slash below, this is not exactly a revert, since the spelling was previously "chili" rather than "chile" as is now suggested. Accordingly, I have struck through my speedy revert suggestion above. —BarrelProof (talk) 15:57, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Chile con queso. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:35, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Support "Chile con queso"Here are the ngram results. "Queso sauce" is a flatline. "Chile" with an "e" is somewhat more common than with an "i". It may also be worth noting that the "i" variant is apparently nonexistent in the Spanish corpus, even though the Spanish Wikipedia article uses that spelling (perhaps just taken from the English article to begin with). Ibadibam (talk) 20:18, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:
  • I only just realized this--the original article was actually, amazingly, at chili con queso, with an "i". That may have been why I felt compelled to move it; it's really, really, really sub-optimal. Red Slash 19:36, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
  • I thought of it as chile con queso myself. So move Queso to newly named chile con queso and queso can redirect to chile con queso. Geoff Who, me? 19:37, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.