Talk:Quest for Fire (film)

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Why is this article tagged?[edit]

What's wrong with it? Zomputer (talk) 22:08, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Still no answer? Zomputer (talk) 18:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Need for more sources[edit]

A lot of the article is not cited. Zomputer (talk) 07:16, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Who says this film was set in Europe?[edit]

The fact that they walked to Africa suggests it was in the middle east. Zomputer (talk) 17:13, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Is it the appearance of the characters? They look european?Zomputer (talk) 12:15, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

They encounter woolly mammoths and saber toothed cats, as well as a cave bear. Those animals were not African, and there were no humans in the New World at that time, so it places them in Eurasia. (talk) 02:44, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Section headed 'Historical accuracy"[edit]

What moron decided to discuss the 'historical accuracy' of a film about pre-history?


please sign your remarks with four tildas (HammerFilmFan (talk) 12:27, 10 September 2014 (UTC)) HammerFilmFan (talk) 12:27, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


In the movie companion, which I unfortunately don't have anymore, the Ulam were described as primitive homo sapiens. The hairy Wagabu were described as plundering Neanderthals.

The marsh scene in the film's opening was filmed around Owen Sound, Ontario (or thereabouts). Similar to the story line, the weather was cold and miserable. The actors were allowed to remain cold and miserable to give realism to their characters. SlightSmile 15:51, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

What does the actual book describe the tribes as? It does seem strange that they would depict two groups of Neanderthals so differently. FunkMonk (talk) 20:59, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you mean by "the actual book" - the 1911 Belgian novel? I know my (clear) memory about the Ulam and Wagabo from a movie companion book years ago doesn't constitute reliable source but we still need reliable sources to say that the movie depicts the Ulam characters as Neanderthal.
I don't remember what it said about Kzamm and Ivaka. If I were to guess I would say Kzamm were also Neanderthal and Ivaka also Sapien in obviously in different ways from Wagabo and Ulam. Dunno. SlightSmile 21:43, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I mean the novel, which is probably the main authority. The companion book would probably be ok to cite, if we knew which edition of the film it came with, or something like that. Also, as someone asked about the location it is supposed to be in, the presence of both woolly mammoths and Neanderthals means it can only be somewhere in Eurasia. There were no woolly mammoths in the Middle East or Africa, and no Neanderthals in Africa. FunkMonk (talk) 21:50, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm watching the "making of" now, and the director says the "main tribe" are primitive Homo sapiens, and that the hairy guys who attack them are Neanderthals. So it appears our article is original research. FunkMonk (talk) 22:11, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
While probably still not properly sourced, I'll go ahead and make the changes which is still better than what we established as the incorrect version.
Also worth noting that the film is based on a 1911 understanding of prehistoric times which is probably not scientifically correct. SlightSmile 16:21, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
True, because the the hairy guys seem like some earlier hominid rather than any recent one. (talk) 02:46, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Reading some reviews on Amazon, it seems the film is rather loosely based on the book, and the names of the tribes were invented for the film. So I wonder whether some of it is just "artistic license". FunkMonk (talk) 05:29, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Still confused about that. The french and german versions of this article are stating the Ulam as Neanderthal and the Wagabu as Homo erectus. Which makes much more sense, storywise. If both the Wagabu and the Kzamm tribes are Neanderthals why they don't look related? Like the Kzamm and the Ulam do. And the Ivaka are the only tribe looking like Sapiens. However I can't find an accurate source for that. (talk) 20:20, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Those articles were probably just based on this one. The extra materials on the DVD directly contradicts any of these claims, so we would need some pretty solid sources to state otherwise here. FunkMonk (talk) 08:57, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

I went ahead and fix it the definition as I agree there are enough sourced material to define the Ulam as homo sapien and not neanderthals even as the change was reverse at some point. Which is weird because even the section "Scientific accuracy" mentions the Ulam as homo sapiens. --Dereck Camacho (talk) 10:26, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Trailer Park Boys[edit]

The section on pop culture references or whatever, on this article spells Sam's name wrong, it's Losco, not Losko. Also it's not Bubbles who calls Sam "Quest for Fire," it's Jim Lahey who asks Sam "... you'll feel the heat! Remember heat? Quest for Fire?" A bot undid my edits, so change 'em, whoeever can.

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