Talk:Rabindranath Tagore

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Nationality of Tagore[edit]

Can I edit the line "Bengali polymath" to "Indian polymath". Tagore is universally known and referred to as Indian. His nobel prize mentions him as Indian. He was born in the part which is now in India and he was a fierce Indian nationalist. Sabujeinstein (talk) 16:57, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

I don't know; perhaps Dr. Blofeld does? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Well, he is strongly associated with Bengali literature, but the article does say that he "reshaped Bengali literature and music" so Indian polymath and then that should be fine.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
@Sabujeinstein: This is a featured article and you should propose on the talk page before making any major change in this article, specially in its lead section. Rabindranath contributed in Bengali throughout his life and was a popular Bengali by ethnicity. The Britannica article, which you mostly prefer to reference while reverting others' edits mentions him as Bengali. - Arr4 (talk) 18:43, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Tagore's life as a "peripatetic litterateur"[edit]

Two editors (User:Maralia and User:SandyGeorgia) have tagged the phrase "Tagore's life as a 'peripatetic litterateur'" with {whom} for attribution to a specific person. The purpose of {whom} and {who} tags is to tag attributions to vague authorities. However, no attribution is being made here. It simply asserts that Tagore was a travelling literary figure ("peripatetic litterateur", as a figure of speech, in quotes), a well-established fact of this article as supported in the paragraph's inline citation as well as in the Travels section.

The instructions for {whom} are clear on this matter: Do not use this tag for material that is already supported by an inline citation. If you want to know who holds that view, all you have to do is look at the source named at the end of the sentence or paragraph. It is not necessary to inquire "According to whom?" in that circumstance. This case, we already know exactly who proposed that Tagore was a travelling literary figure: the authors of the inline citations used for the phrase in question and of the Travels section, namely Dutta & Robinson (1995).

If the construction of the phrase bothers editors, then consider (1) removing the quotation marks or (2) changing it to "Tagore's life as a travelling literary figure".

 —Waldhorn (talk) 17:11, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

I have reverted you, so that makes three. The quote is not supported by an inline attribution - I can't even see the source, it might be Dutta.Robinson or it might be a self-description by Tagore, or it might be a fancy way of using Wikipedia's voice. We do not do this in Featured articles - if you quote, you attribute within the sentence etc, not merely through the cite. If the template documentation says otherwise, that's tough. - Sitush (talk) 17:14, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, but I must disagree. It's a properly and clearly attributed assertion and complies with FA requirements. The quotes are simply there are a figure of speech. If you don't like the use of the phrase, then change it as proposed above. Misuse of the {whom} tag is not helpful here. —Waldhorn (talk) 17:19, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Ah, it is a figure of speech. So neither Tagore nor Dutta/Robinson say it? In that case, drop the quotes entirely. This isn't my problem, it is the problem of whoever wrote the thing; especially so because later in the same sentence we are apparently quoting Tagore. - Sitush (talk) 17:24, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Dutta/Robinson use the phrase as the title of a chapter dedicated to Tagores travels. Rephrasing or removing the quotation marks would fix it. But I'm not going to touch it today as I'm at 3RR. —Waldhorn (talk) 17:30, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Blow the rules, bright line or not - will this do? If Dutta/Robinson have not been introduced then it will require amendment, eg: Dutta and Robinson, his biographers, describe ... - Sitush (talk) 17:37, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Sitush (I still had this FFA watchlisted since the FAR, and noticed the faulty revert ... glad you fixed that! Unwatch now ... ). Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:02, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Anachronisms[edit]

Why are we using Kolkata? That was not the name then. - Sitush (talk) 17:27, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Frenz source[edit]

The following was added between 1 - 3 December 2005 and was present in April 2006 when the article passed FAC. Despite this, it seems never to have been cited. I'm dumping it here for now because it is throwing a Harvard error. Frenz, H. (1969). "Rabindranath Tagore—Biography". Nobel Foundation. Retrieved 30 August 2011.  - Sitush (talk) 19:11, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2015[edit]


Bengali Film:Jogajog(Relationships)2015 directed by Sekhar Das Raja mandol (talk) 12:39, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 14:05, 3 July 2015 (UTC)