Talk:Rachida Dati

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First member of cabinet belonging to an ethnic minority?[edit]

I removed this statement -- it can't possibly be true. Nicolas Sarkozy himself is a member of an ethnic minority: he is half Hungarian and half Sephardic. The BBC may have intended to say that she is the first African to become a member of cabinet. Chl 18:15, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I added back with more sources, but put the disputed tag. I think if you can name a minister who held a key position and who was from an ethnic minority, then we can remove this statement. Also ethnic minority does not translate as "issue de l'immigration". Perhaps this is where the confusion lies. Sarkozy is not from an ethnic minority, and is also not a member of the cabinet. I understand how you may feel that it projects a bad image of France, but remember our country has been behind on many issues like this, we should admit it and try to move on, rather than hide the truth. Anyway hopefully these sources constitute sufficient proof. I don't think we have anything to be ashamed of as a nation anyway, even if this does come fairly late in history. Many other countries are taking much more radical measures against immigration and are a lot more violent in their relations with other countries. Jackaranga 12:42, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I tried to include sources from different areas: European, Arabic, Russian, American. Jackaranga 12:50, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, Sarkozy was minister of the interior -- that's a member of the cabinet. He is Hungarian... surely Hungarians do not constitute a majority in France? Chl 02:04, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I should not try to push stuff like this, I changed the article a bit to be more precise. I think the use of the phrase "ethnic minority" is confusing, especially to French people, as we have no equivalent expression. I think when BBC said "ethnic minority" they meant "not fair skinned". I know in the USA, immigrated Europeans are not considered an ethnic minority, even if they just moved over, whereas black people who's families have been living there for perhaps 200 years are still considered an ethnic minority. I see what you mean because, Maghrebis are in fact considered to be Caucasian, like the ancestral inhabitants of France. Jackaranga 13:14, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Just for instance, Pierre Bérégovoy, former prime minister of france, was born in an ukrainian family who had just immgrated in France. So yes, "not from european background" would be correct.
Also, Édouard Balladur, the former French PM was born in Turkish Smyrna in a Catholic family, possibly of Armenian origin. Does this count as a "non-European immigrant background"? Zapiens 14:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Carreer[edit]

She never was assistant to the Attorney general in Evry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.55.154.65 (talk) 03:21, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

She is not Arab[edit]

see wikipedia French article for example —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.55.154.65 (talk) 03:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Ethnic Arab? French by birth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.220.180.44 (talk) 19:28, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

"See also" Question[edit]

Is there a reason the articles Foreign-born Japanese, Japanese nationality law, and South Korean nationality law are listed in the "See also" section? I can't think of any reason why they would be (or why this article would be referenced in those articles as well).--Burzum 04:26, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Gossips[edit]

There is no source related to the identity of the father of her child, so please refrain from posting unappropriate and unsourced gossip. This will be reverted according to wikipedia rules about living persons. 193.56.37.1 (talk) 12:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

pregnancy rumours - warning to editors[edit]

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Well, if Die Welt is not serious enough for you, you can still check Le Monde: http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2008/09/03/rachida-dati-evoque-prudemment-sa-grossesse_1090834_823448.html. Cheers, RCS (talk) 16:28, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


Religion[edit]

What about her religion? --94.179.41.193 (talk) 17:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

If anything, Catholicism: [1]. But she appears to be agnostic, actually. RCS (talk) 19:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

More needed re record as Minister of Justice[edit]

The article now has almost nothing on her record as Minister of Justice, except for the sentence "Her first changes were received coldly by professionals, with public demonstrations." This suggests a controversy, but about what??

Fortunately the French article has a section Ministre de la Justice with much more complete explanations. I suggest that someone translate the French text of this section, at least in part. Dirac66 (talk) 13:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Her comment that oral sex is near zero in France[edit]

In practice, BLP is not to smear anyone. This isn't smearing her but not sure if it is too tabloid like.

It is being reported, almost viral, where she said that fellatio is almost zero in France. She meant to say inflation, which sounds similar in French. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 00:33, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

This is really a minor story of no importance. Mezigue (talk) 08:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Her comment that oral sex is near zero in France is zero encyclopaedic value in Wikipedia. --Garik 11 (talk) 08:57, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
I agree that it shouldn't normally be here. The only possible reason to have it is because Wikipedia has so much crap that crap has become the defining standard. It is not "other crap exists" but there is so much of it. In short, let's not have it here. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 23:59, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I think it's actually a revealing side to her personality, she's sueing an unemployed man who related this incident in an email to her. He's being charged with outrage, has been detained for 2 days,with a full house search and all his computers seized! He's already under a restraining order and is currently threatened with 6 month in jail and a 7500 euro fine: So much for laughing it off! refs: http://www.liberation.fr/societe/01012299273-il-demande-une-inflation-a-dati-et-termine-en-garde-a-vue —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.105.141.201 (talk) 10:48, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Request for Comments[edit]

There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.

The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.

Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 02:39, 26 April 2015 (UTC)