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Could moving some information around help the article?[edit]

The article looks pretty messy right now, maybe if we moved around the tables of info to a separate, independent page it would clean it up somewhat. I'm primarily talking about the "Class III Railroads by state" portion. Cheers, --Ozkwa (talk) 05:56, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Moved from the article (table by year)[edit]

Fiscal year Cutoff Railroads Changes from previous year
1950s  

ACY, AGS, CA, AA, ATSF, ASAB, AWP, AD, ACL, BO, BAR, BLE, BM, BRI, CI, CN, CP, CG, CNJ, CRP, CV, CWC, CO, CEI, CIM, CNW, CBQ, CGW, CIL or MON, MILW, RI, CMO, CNTP, CRR, CS, CW, CAGY, DH, DLW, DRGW, D&SL, DM, D&TS, DTI, DMIR, DWP, DSA, EJE, ERIE, FEC, FW&D, GA, G&F, GS&F, GTW, GN, GBW, GM&O, IC, ITC, I-GN, KCS, KOG, LS&I, LHR, LNE, LV, LI, L&A, LN, MEC, MV, MSTL, SOO, MSC, M-I, MKT, MP, MGA, MTR, NC, NYC, NKP, NYCN, NH, OW, NYSW, NW, NS, NP, NWP, OCAA, OE, PRR, PRSL, PM, PLE, PS, P&WV, RDG, RFP, R, SN, SLSF, SSW, SAL, SP, SOU, SI, SPS, SIR, TC, TN, TP, TM, TPW, UP, UTAH, VGN, WAB, WA, WM, WP, WLE, WC,

 
1953[1]  

ACY, AGS, AA, ATSF, ASAB, AWP, AD, ACL, BO, BAR, BSLW, BLE, BM, CI, CN, CP, CG, CNJ, CRP, CV, CWC, CO, CO (PM), CEI, CIM, CNW, CBQ, CGW, CIL, MILW, RI, CMO, CNTP, CRR, CS, CW, CAGY, DH, DLW, DRGW, DM, D&TS, DTI, DMIR, DSA, DWP, EJE, ERIE, FEC, FW&D, GA, G&F, GS&F, GTW, GN, GBW, GM&O, IC, ITC, I-GN, KCS, KOG, LS&I, LHR, LNE, LV, LI, L&A, LN, MEC, MV, MSTL, SOO, MSC, M-I, MKT, MKTT, MP, MGA, M, NC, NO&NE, NOT&M, NYC, NKP, NH, OW, NYSW, NW, NS, NP, NWP, OCAA, P&SF, PRR, PRSL, PS, PLE, P&WV, RDG, RFP, R, SN, SLB&M, SLSF, SLSFT, SSW, SSWT, SAUG, SAL, SP, SOU, SI, SPS, SIR, TC, T&NO TN, T&P, TM, TPW, UP, UTAH, VGN, WAB, WA, WM, WP

 
1963[2]  

ACY, AGS, ATN, ALQS*, ALS*, AA, ATSF, ASAB, AWP, ACL, BOCT*, BO, BAR, BRC*, BLE, BS*, BM, CN, CP, CTN*, CRN CG, CNJ, CV, CWC, CO, CO (PM), CEI, CIM, CNW, CWI*, CBQ, CGW, CIL or MON, MILW, CRI*, RI, CNTP, CRR, CS, CW, CBL*, CUVA*, DH, DRGW, D&TS, DTI, DMIR, DWP, EJE, EL, FEC, FW&D, GWF*, G&F, GA, GS&F, GTW, GN, GBW, GM&O, HBT*, IC, ITC, IHB*, IU*, KCS, KCT* KOG, KIT*, LEE*, LS&I, LT* LHR, LV, LI, L&A, LN, MEC, MNS, MI, MKT, MP, MGAC, MGA, NSS*, NONE, NOPB*, NOT*, NYC, NKP, NH, NYSW, NW, NS, NP, NWP, PE, PBR*, PRR, PRSL, PPU*, PBNE*, PN, PLE, P&WV, PTM*, QAP, RDG, RFP, RT*, R, SLSFT, SLSF, SSW, SDAE, SA, SAL, SOO, SB*, SP, SOU, SI, SPS, SIR, TC, TRRA*, TP, TM, TPMP*, TPW, UP, URR*, WAB, WM, WP, WA,

 * Switching and Terminal Companies
1984  

AGS, AMTK, ATSF, BLE, BM, BN, BO, CG, CN, CNTP, CNW, CO, CP, CR, DH, DMIR, EJE, FEC, GTW, ICG, KCS, MILW, MKT, MP, NW, PLE, SBD, SOO, SOU, SP, SSW, UP, WP

 
1995  

ATSF, BN, CR, CSXT, GTW, IC, KCS, NS, SOO, SP, UP

 
1996 $255.9 million

BNSF, CR, CSXT, GTW, IC, KCS, NS, SOO, UP

 
2000 $256.4 million BNSF, CSXT, GTW, IC, KCS, NS, SOO, UP

CN took over IC (IC continued to report as a separate company in 2000 and 2001);
CR was split between CSX and NS

2002 $266.7 million

BNSF, CN, CP, CSXT, FXE, GTW, KCS, NS, SOO, TFM, UP

 
2004 $277.7 million

BNSF, CN, CP, CSXT, FXE, KCS, NS, KCSM, UP

 

I removed this from the article because it's incomplete, if it were complete it would be unwieldy, and it would ideally belong in list of Class I railroads as a simple parenthetical range of years after each railroad, with changes listed in timeline of Class I railroads (1910-1929) and family. --NE2 09:31, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

History of Class Migration[edit]

Would it be useful for me to add a section describing the history of the Class 1s? Many of the contemporary Class 1 rail companies have been purchased, consolidated, broken-up, re-merged with other rail companies over the past 5 decades, to the point where many Class 2s and 3s and some of the older Class 1s are now combined in to the current Class 1s.

I wonder if a history of how that all took place would be useful. There are such histories provided for the major banking institutions in the United States, maybe it would be informative and useful here... Or is that all pretty irrelevant now? Thanks! Damotclese (talk) 18:52, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Amtrak[edit]

Amtrak needs to be removed from the list of Class 1 railroads, it is not classed as such by the Association of American Railroads. Although it meets the revenue criteria it is not a freight line. See link https://www.aar.org/aboutus/Pages/Industry-Information.aspx#.UgTclpLVCZg

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zxcoleman (talkcontribs) 12:22, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Why?[edit]

The article fails to explain the motive to this classification. The question is simple:

Why are North American railroads classified? 90.229.34.175 (talk) 09:26, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

I would amend this question slightly: "Why are North American railroads classified by gross revenue?"SeanStreiff (talk) 18:01, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

From a public relations point of view, it could be advantageous for a railroad to be able to claim, "We are a First Class railroad". However, regulatory costs would be higher, more than offsetting this.

Inflation factor seems incorrectly high[edit]

> having annual carrier operating revenues of $250 million or more in 1991 dollars", which adjusted for inflation was $452,653,248 in 2012.

If my math is correct, was the level of cumulative inflation just over 80% from 1991 to 2012? Was that based on CPI (consumer price index) or some kind of industry based price increase measure? — Preceding unsigned comment added by L d allan (talkcontribs) 21:01, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

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  1. ^ Anon (January 1953). "The Official Railway Equipment Register". LXVIII (3). New York: The Railway Equipment and Publications Company: pp.xii–xxiv. 
  2. ^ Anon (January 1963). "The Official Railway Equipment Register". LXXVIII (3). New York: The Railway Equipment and Publications Company: pp.xi–xxii.