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Better Diagram[edit]

I applaud the diagram explaining the effect of rainshadow, though perhaps we can get an even better one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rainier5 (talkcontribs) 02:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC) - Thank you for the open faced compliment sandwich!

Yeah, it does not seem very professional or encyclopedic (talk) 05:22, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

I moved this page "back" to Rain shadow as it is clearly an article about that "place". We already have an article about the "effect", called Orographic precipitation. - Marshman 18:45, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC) rain shadow — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:58, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Merge Tag Removal[edit]

The consensus appears to be no merge. See Orographic lift talk page for discussion. Tag removed today. Williamborg (Bill) 03:52, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Merge to rainshadow[edit]

From what i gather rain shadow and rainshadow are the same thing -- PlaneMad|YakYak 09:26, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Support Merge—Makes perfect sense that two spellings of the same word(s) be merged. Who'd have thought we'd be sloppy enough as to create these in parallel... Williamborg (Bill) 15:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Support Merge obviously yes Chassig 00:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Support Merge they are the exactly the same thing

--ExterayT.C 22:42, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Support Merge Same thing, need to be made one. --Doctorcherokee 19:16, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Suppor Merge. Why wait? Kablammo 02:37, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Support Merge Mountolive | Talk 05:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Support Merge Still waiting? David 07:26, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Support Merge This is silly! It's the same thing. --Earthsprite 05:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

MERGED. There is not much to merge in the other article, this one is much better and contains true science. I have put some of the other article in the Description section, but much of it is redundant. You can edit at will. I don´t know how, but the other article should be deleted now. David 07:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Rain shadow-the definition?[edit]

I have always believed a 'rain shadow' was an area of INCREASED rainfall, caused by mountain ranges etc, forcing air to rise, cool and precipitate, creating an area where rainfall is common. I see, of course, and accept, that the current usage is quite the reverse. However, can anyone advise how or why I could have learned this other definition at a UK school (1960's) and if it has been changed at any time. Macthefork 09:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

"is the shadow a rain drop has before it lands on the ground" Seems to me to really have no rational place in this article. It appears to me to either be poor judgment, or a really tasteless joke. Not Wikipedia material, in my opinion. I'm not on any team here, but I think it really ought to be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:34, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Shenandoah Valley[edit]

Here's a precipitation map of Virginia


clearly showing rainfall patterns within the State of Virginia. Several valleys (not only the Shenandoah) within the western part of the State have rainfall much less than areas to the east of the Blue Ridge Mountains, some parts of which are extremely rainy (likely snowy in winter). The driest spot in Virginia that I noticed was in Harrisonburg and surrounding Rockingham County. That's far from being desert, and not quite steppe.

But it can explain why the Shenandoah Valley is more suited to fruit and grain production than wetter parts of the State. rainshadow


The high relief of the Appalachian and Blue Ridge Mountain systems also helps to control Virginia’s climate. ... Along the Appalachian and Blue Ridge Mountains of western Virginia, this airflow is sometimes from the west and sometimes from the east. When the flow is from the west, the New River and Shenandoah River valleys are in the rain shadow of the Appalachian Mountains; when the airflow is from the east, they are in the shadow of the Blue Ridge Mountains. As a result, both the New River and the Shenandoah River valleys are the driest portions of the state. Regions of equally low rainfall are rare in the eastern United States (although common along the eastern margins of the great plains of the central United States. Pbrower2a (talk) 02:30, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Rain shadows being cool areas?[edit]

I find that highly unlikly. When the water condensate the energy used to keep it in gas form is released into the air, when that air get down to the rainshadow areas it is heated by the increased air densetity meaning that if the place in the rains shadow is at the same altitude as the area infront of the mountain the air will be warmer then on the other side because of the added heat from the water leaving gas form. This only apply when it's allot of wind thou... The norwegian name of this fenomen, not the rain shadow but the special warm wind this areas often have, is "føn vind". Unnless I heare any good argumens for why these areas are cooler then other areas I'll change it later one, when I find some profe of these areas being warmer somewhere else then my physics books.

Ps. I would prefere if somone that's better in english then me would do it thou..

Luredreier 13:18, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

By the way, not that it's important, but how do you add a word or a section off an article as questionable?

Luredreier 13:54, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

North American rain shadows[edit]

I'm not sure if it's just unclear writing, but the article states that deserts east of the Cascades in northern Oregon and most of Washington are part of the Basin and Range Province. This is not supported by the references, and these areas are considered part of the Columbia Plateau as per the USGS. I'll go ahead and fix this unless someone in the field thinks otherwise. Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 17:40, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

external link[edit]

The following enquiry was posted on my individual talk page but I am moving it here because it seems to be aimed more generally than just myself. Scil100 (talk) 02:46, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I wanted to suggest that the rainshadow page include an external link to, which is an informational site devoted to one specific rain shadow in the Pacific Northwest of the USA. As I operate that site, I gather I am not to post this, nor do I know how. But I do think many people might be interested in a bit more detail than is in the wiki article. I am new to wiki and to "talk" so hope this reaches someone with a legitimate interest in rain shadows.
Davidbri (talk) 21:47, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Manchester and sheffield[edit]

Manchester does not have double the rainfall of sheffield, in fact according to the individual Wikipedia articles on the cities, sheffield has a higher rainfall. Likewise I'd love to know how Edinburgh, less than an hours drive from Glasgow with no mountains in between has double the rainfall. The answer is it doesn't.

Charlton1987 (talk) 08:22, 21 April 2014 (UTC)