Talk:Ramón Serrano Suñer

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Wrong Date[edit]

Serrano Suñer became foreign minister in 1940, not 1939, as the article originally stated. I have corrected this. --Ethan Jennings (talk) 19:40, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Words missing?[edit]

'Carmen, a most beautiful woman in her youth with blue "aryan" eyes, as Serrano had, too, and family frustrated woman on both sides of her family, was the Personal Secretary of the First Spanish President under democracy...'

Needs sorting. Valetude (talk) 17:59, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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World War II[edit]

I have no expertise to fix it but to add to the article's issues- the section on Political Career and the section on involvement in World War II offer what read like overlapping but slightly contradictory accounts of Serrano Suner's evolving views on the Germans, joining the Axis in the war, and on his relations with Franco on this subject. I have no doubt there are nuances involved, but the way these sections are now written is just confusing. Another item for the eventual attention of an expert. Random noter (talk) 13:56, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with Mis-attributing Beigbeder's life to Serrano Suñer[edit]

This paragraph has no supporting references, and is highly suspect for veracity:

″Serrano Suñer had married, in October 1915, María Fedriani y Martín-Esperanza from Alcalá de Henares, and was a longtime resident in what is now North Morocco as a Military Governor, having a taste for exotic, foreign, beautiful ladies, as recognized by the German controllers of foreign members of the Diplomatic Services at Berlin. He seems to have been very friendly with a British lady born in India by the name Rosalinda Powell Fox, presumed to be a British female spy.″

If Serrano Suñer was born in 1901, he would have been 14 at the time, still at school in Madrid or Zaragoza, not Alcala, and yet to attend the University of Madrid. I strongly suspect that it is in fact about General Beigbeder, mis-attributed to Serrano Suñer. For example, see this story regarding Beigbeder: ^[1].

This paragraph is explicitly about Beigbeder, and seems irrelevant to an article on Serrano Suñer:

″Certainly, on 1 February 1943, africanist Colonel Beigbeder, a good speaker and reader of Classical Arabic and North Moroccan languages, Tangier and Tetouan, was at USA, with Rosalinde Powell Fox, the former wife of an industrialist in India, being promoted, September 1943, to a General of Brigade.″

I have commented out both paragraphs until the first can be supported by authoritative references, and the relevance of the second clarified.

Cheers Urilarim (talk) 23:25, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.jccanalda.es/jccanalda_doc/jccanalda_alcala/artic-alcala/artic-biografias/beigbeder.htm

False[edit]

Suner was far more pro-Axis than he made out. This article is unreliable. (2A00:23C7:CF07:C300:C012:51B7:2130:83FC (talk) 02:41, 3 August 2019 (UTC))[reply]

[1] ttp://www.jccanalda.es/jccanalda_doc/jccanalda_alcala/artic-alcala/artic-biografias/beigbeder.htm

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