Talk:Ranks in the French Army
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Highest French Army Rank????
Contradiction with French Gendarmerie
- This is normal, the terminology varies according to the arm. Both are corect. Rama 21:26, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
So which arms use this terminology and which the terminology on the other page? Shinobu 08:30, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- The Gendarmerie uses terms like "légion", "groupement", etc., and the Army uses "corps d'armée, régiment", etc. Rama 09:09, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
In that case I think my question still stands, because the contradiction between the articles was about ranks in the Gendarmerie. I'll quote from the other talk page since we're apparently discussing this here.
- regions - general
- legions - colonel
- légions - général de brigade
- groupement - colonel
- brigade - lieutenant
Note that according to both articles these are ranks and divisions in the Gendarmerie. So a colonel, is he the head of a legion or a groupement? What is a larger unit, a compagnie or a brigade? Or are they identical? Is a général de brigade the head of a legion or a region, or is that a different kind of general? Who is the head of a compagnie? Shinobu 23:11, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
I'll try to answer that with a BIG "it depends"!
- Usually a legion/region is commanded by a general (a general de brigade to be more precise). Usually (again), a groupement (a groupement is the "head-office for all the compagnies of a departement), is commanded by a colonel (or a lieutenant-colonel). However, due to staffing issues sometimes a colonel will command a legion. And sometimes a commandant will command a groupement. And sometimes a lieutenant-colonel will command a compagnie. Confusing, I know.
- Oh, and within the Gendarmerie, a legion is the same as a region. So for example, the french region of Auvergne will be the same as the Gendarmerie legion of Auvergne.
- The compagnie encompasses many brigades. A compagnie is basically the head office for several brigades. This can go from 2 brigades to 10 or more. Within a compagnie you'll have the gendarmerie officers commanding the compagnie and any number of clerical staff to assist them. The head of a compagnie is usually a capitaine, or a commandant, or in some smaller compagnies a lieutenant and so on.
To simplify, by order of adminstrative size:
- Communaute de Brigade
-- Mille sabord 23:25, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Today, the word poilu only refers to the veteran of WWI, it is used to speak about the german and french soldiers " les poilus ", because at some fights, they didn't have any time to shave themselves.
- The "poilu", which is a french word, refers only to french soldiers of WW1.
I think it must be explained what the terms section, group and team mean in the article. When it says that a Lieutenant is "in command of a section (infantry)" is that the same as a section in the US/UK army? When it says that a sergent is "in command of a group", what is this group how many men? Likewise there should be a definition of a team, so that readers can understand the difference between a caporal and say a British corporal. --Stulfsten (talk) 13:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
French Army uniforms?
Did the style of French Army battle dress change between WW I and WW II?