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RE: Removed Content
I think the removed content by Pontificalibus about the different backgrounds of regions such as North America, Sydney , South America, etc. was usefull...Especially the North America since it had such a large influence coinciding with Europe. Either there should be a history of rave culture article page, or added back to the rave page. -a raver 1/17/2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 21:32, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Are raves related to Emo culture? I think of some of the hairstyles and fashion as the same, but it also seems like electronic dance and trance music is a different genre. -- Beland (talk) 15:20, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
First paragraphs - Free Parties not mentioned, and origin stated as 'Chicago'
"Rave culture originated mostly from acid music parties in the mid-to-late 1980s in the Chicago area in the United States. After Chicago house artists began experiencing overseas success, it quickly spread to the United Kingdom, Central Europe, Australia and the rest of the United States."
Ummmmmmmmm...... this is dodgy. There is no way that England can be relegated to the same follower status as 'Central Europe'. Consensus seems to hold that the origin of 80s-90s rave culture was Manchester. The music, the sound system origins and the culture could be said to come from various sources, with various claims from Ibiza to Jamaica.
Also, the first part of this article, the summary definition, misses out a crucial element that made Raves aka Free Parties what they are: they are Free - including their entrance policies. They are nonprofit. They are temporary - held in unlicenced locations. And usually, they are thrown by sound systems.
The more I read on the subject, the more I see some people corrupting its definition. The main example: A rave is not a party that takes place in a regular licensed premises, with alcohol permits, and it is not a party with entrance fees. For a pay-to-enter party that takes place in a regular licensed venue, for profit, please see "Nightclub", as that is its basic definition. A dog is not a cat, and a rave is not a nightclub. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 18:18, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- The musical origins clearly were in the Chicago house scene, and you'd be hard-pressed to find any history of the scene that doesn't acknowledge that. British rave culture, however, certainly did not origin in Manchester. Most sources agree that the sequence of events was London DJs visiting Ibiza, and bringing back both the new music and idea of taking MDMA that had started to develop there. This led to a burgeoning new scene in London, that then spread to other cities. Manchester was clearly a regional centre in the north, but then so were Leeds and Sheffield to differing degrees, yet none of them came close to the scale of what was happening in London, either in terms of legal events, or illegal ones.
- I'm somewhat surprised at your inference that raves can only take place in unlicensed venues, especially since the origins of the scene were in licensed venues, but events were subsequently displaced to unlicensed venues precisely because the authorities cracked down on them happening in licensed premises. Today, of course, very few unlicensed events take place in comparison to licensed ones, although the scene as a whole has been contracting for a number of years. Saying that raves only happen illicitly in fields in the middle of nowhere is just cultural snobbery. Nick Cooper (talk) 11:12, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- I suggest you read this article as you are misinformed http://www.dummymag.com/Features/the-dummy-guide-to-acid-house rave/acid house was prevalent in Manchester in 1986 and if you read the article and connected articles/those interviewed within it including Terry Farley who DJ'd at Danny Ramplings club Shoom says they were not responsible for introducing it to the UK as for your assertion about the North you clearly are not Northern and attended the raves in the North the previous editor is correct however they moved outdoor because they grew too large for a venue to cope with the growing numbers at event and police pressure own club owners to crack down on drug dealers within the club or face closure the organizers simply up sticks and decided to stage them for free wherever they wanted.--Navops47 (talk) 10:47, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Tag added for expansion of Florida component
I've added a tag for the expansion of the relevant history in Orlando, Florida re: the Beacham Theater. The Beacham Theater entry has adequate sourcing for the Florida history addition to this article.Johnvr4 (talk) 14:32, 31 July 2016 (UTC)