Talk:Red Hook, Brooklyn

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A History of Carroll Gardens showing that before 1960 that area was known as Red Hook.and for more info regarding redhook go to shmias.com

External link request--B61Productions.com[edit]

I publish http://www.b61productions.com, a site dedicated to covering news and events in Red Hook, Brooklyn. The site contains in-depth coverage of economic and waterfront development issues in this small South Brooklyn neighborhood. The site has been linked to from websites for CNN Money, Time Out New York and New York Observer. B61 Productions is also regularly linked to from major real estate blogs Curbed and Brownstoner. Thank you for your consideration. -Steve McFarland (geton [at] b61productions [dot] com)

Looks respectiable. You're in. Pacific Coast Highway (blahlol, internet) 21:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot.

I have added an external list to www.redhookbeach.com. This is part of the Tom Fox and Douglas Durst development project for Atlantic Basin. Douglas is a well known green developer and together they are proposing a community and ecologically friendly development of Atlantic Basin. It will include both a public park and a beach like Water Taxi Beach in Queens. 69.116.170.107 17:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)hawk

map[edit]

It would be cool to see a map of brooklyn or new york identifying red hook--Eahiv 19:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC) -modern or historical red hook? There is no legal boundries for a modern red hook. Historically, while once a tidel island, by the 1890's included all of what today is known as Carroll Gardens.. which is a term that dates from the 1960's. Everyone seems to have their own personal option about where the borders are...69.116.170.107 16:00, 17 December 2006 (UTC)hawk


IKEA Dissent[edit]

This article treads the line of opinion rather than fact on the subject of IKEA. The authors have done a poor job of concealing their dislike for the project. I intend to watch this article for a few months to see whether there is an active authorship already in place and if not, to edit out the personal voice and replace it with references for further research.AlwaysThinkin 18:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the section indeed presents conservative views. Certainly a more progressive external opinion should be linked, if a good one can be found. Perhaps such an opinion should also be described in the article. If you are uncertain of how to present the alternative view, you could write a preliminary draft or proposal here in the Talk page and get some help in integrating it into the article. Jim.henderson 19:00, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

The IKEA section might work better if the authors tried to weave in some of the historical context. That Red Hook has always been a mixed use community, and that red hook is home to historical marine industry (E.g., On the Water Front). That opposition to IKEA isn't anti business nor anti commerce per se, but rather in part because the IKEA tips the balance away from the traditional blend of mixed business and residential and will remove forever some critical Marine infrastructure --75.195.90.154 14:23, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

All right, so this is a dissenting dissenting view; ie a conservative who wants better conservative arguments, in contrast to the previous dissenter, a progressive who detected a conservative bias. So, yes, perhaps a reference can be found to some conservative authority who thinks once a place is maritime it should stay maritime and not lose that status as Williamsburgh, DUMBO and Canarsie have done. Thus the barges should keep on bringing in oil and gravel and the junkyards should continue in operation and otherwise the old balance be maintained. So, it's just a matter of finding the published author who identifies this balance, or identifies some endangered bit of infrastructure, as in some way critical to, well, whatever it's critical to. Yes, let's present it. Jim.henderson 05:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The REAL Red Hook[edit]

There are almost four paragraphs dedicated to IKEA but none dedicated to the reality in Red Hook. A poor neighborhood where the majority of the residents (11,000?) live in a housing project that takes up a significant chunk of the geographical area in the neighborhood. The real Red Hook is a poor neighborhood, mostly Puerto Rican with a good number of Dominicans and Blacks with all kinds of social problems and an overhyped, dry amount of gentrification in a dead area with some hipsters looking for lofts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.204.10.97 (talk) 01:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Before editing, consider reading Wikipedia:Five pillars, which summarizes Wikipedia's official policies and guidelines.--JBC3 (talk) 13:35, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I had the same reaction as noted above. But, I don't feel qualified to describe "the REAL Red Hook". This is a request for someone knowledgable to describe the neighborhood. Jreiss17 (talk) 13:31, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Notable non-residents[edit]

In trying to document some of the notable "residents" I have become very skeptical that some of them actually were residents. In particular, H.P.Lovecraft did write a story "The Horror at Red Hook" but it seems that he lived in Brooklyn Heights. See, for instance, see http://southbrooklynpost.com/2011/10/hp-lovecraft/

I am also unable to find any evidence that Norman Mailer lived in Red Hook. While I know "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". Nonetheless, it seems he shouldn't be listed unless there is some evidence of his actual presence.

However, I do not feel qualified or entitled to remove these names without additional work (that I don't have the time or interest to devote to this).

On a more positive note, I was able to find a very good reference for James McBride.

Photo in Red Hook?[edit]

RedHook-Factory.jpg

Hoping to get someone else's thoughts about the image to the right, which is the top image of the article and which also appears in the Red Hook articles on other Wikipedias. The original author hasn't edited since 2014, so I don't know that he/she will see the message I left at File talk:RedHook-Factory.jpg. The gist is that it's not entirely clear to me that the building in the photo is actually in Red Hook. The Eagle sign is in Gowanus, that raised train track is in Gowanus, and I don't see the raised 278 highway which divides the two neighborhoods and should be in the photo if it were taken from Red Hook... — Rhododendrites talk \\ 21:48, 20 March 2016 (UTC)