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Red Skull's importance level[edit]

As the arch-enemy of a Top importance character (Captain America), the Red Skull should be listed as High-importance, as the arch-rivals of all other top importance characters are. I ask whoever keeps setting the importance to mid and low, please stop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.208.232.14 (talk) 07:18, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

He is important to one company. Click on the importance scale link in the Wikiproject: Comics tag and you will find this deffinition:
This article is very important to the project, as it covers either a general area of knowledge or provides information of a significant topic.
The Red Skull falls into neither of these definitions. Stephen Day (talk) 06:00, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
And how is Doctor Octopus more important than Red Skull? How is Penguin important to more than one company? What has Sabretooth done to warrant High Importance. I will continue to change this until you give me a suitable answer, or change the other characters down to mid importance.
Superman is of high importance and so is Spider-Man due to the fact that they have impact and recongnition beyond the companies they represent. Characters of that level deserve to be listed as being of high level imporatance. The other characters you listed, they're rated higher than they should be as well in my opinion. None of them are on the level of the two characters I mentioned.
Thank you for pointing these out. I'll change them right now. :) Stephen Day (talk) 05:50, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Live action movie[edit]

The live-action movie summary makes NO SENSE. Well, it makes some but is convoluted. (I think that might more be a problem with the movie's script itself, as opposed to the entry) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.24.94 (talk) 08:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I notice there is no "Other Media" section.(preceding unsigned comment by 24.147.140.206 {{{2}}})


"The Red Skull was recently assassinated by the mysterious Winter Soldier, under orders from the former Soviet general Alexander Lukin, who wanted to possess the Cosmic Cube. He was literally confirmed as dead on the panel, but whether he will stay dead remains to be seen"

Due to his dealings with Arnim Zola, I suspect he can just teleport his mind into a cloned body.

Big sections missing[edit]

There is a lot of information missing from this artical but i do not have enough information to updates this. what i do know...
-The red skull was alive on the captain america comics of the 90's (possible alt. universe)
-in these comics he possesed great power as he has been bonded to the Cosmic Cube.

Colonel Abdul Al-Rahman. The Ultimate Red Skull ?[edit]

  • Is Colonel Abdul Al-Rahman, The Ultimate Red Skull ?
    • Their only similarity at all is that they are supervillain enemies of Captain America. I mean, maybe I could see it if...you know...the colonel had a skull which was red ;) Vignettelante 05:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Removed opinion line from trivia...[edit]

I removed this line: "However, while the English name sounds rather menacing, the German name does not." from the trivia section. That's really an opinion. I would think that a German speaker would find the German name just as menacing, and that line doesn't add anything useful to the entry anyway. 147.240.236.9 17:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)Roy

Made a change about The Colonel[edit]

I changed it from "Arab youth" to "Persian youth". Obviously because the character was not an Arab.

Confusing[edit]

This article is very difficult to follow for anyone not already knowledgeable about the character. It would probably be easier to read if it followed real-world chronology, describing the character as he was potrayed in the 1940's first and not mentioning any retcons until they actually occured in real-world time. I think this would be a lot more readable than there was the first but then later it was decided the first was the second and there was a new first then second reappeared but some people now call the second the third and call the fake skull (who was originally the same as the first) the second.

"The Gentleman"[edit]

The Gentleman was an original character created for the Spiderman novels "Revenge of the Sinister Six" and "Secret of the Sinister Six". And Marvel doesn't consider the novels canon. So I don't think it should be here? 99.245.168.32 16:31, 24 April 2007 (UTC)Angelwings

91.105.141.42 19:33, 5 August 2007 (UTC)Shouldn't the interview mentioned below be referenced? I've tried to find the interview online, but to no avail.

'Red Skull is one of several Silver Age Marvel characters not to have an Ultimate Marvel counterpart. In an interview given shortly after the launch of "The Ultimates", Mark Millar had singled out Red Skull, along with Doctor Doom, as the only "traditional" Marvel villains he would be willing to use in the pages of the series.'


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Condensing sections[edit]

I've noticed Wiki discourages Trivia, so any thoughts on moving the game and Ultimates info into Other media and dropping the German name? Possibly the Ultimates note could be given its own small section at the end of the main bio, although I'm still unclear as to EXACTLY what constitutes "Other" media, seeing how Ultimates is still part of the Marvel Universe... I'll give it a day or two for input before making any changes.Enigmatic2k3 (talk) 23:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

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Dean Rusk[edit]

Is "Dell Rusk" truly a reference to Dean Rusk or merely a great coincidence? I can't find any citation that Johns intended this as a reference. Only a few instances are found online where anyone made the connection if it truly was intended. By definition, DEAN Rusk is NOT an anagram of Red Skull, (but DELL Rusk is). You cannot rearrange DEAN Rusk in any way for it to become RED SKULL. So either delete all references to anagrame altogether (if the wiki community decides that there is not enough reference to support this) or at least keep the correct anagram, the DELL one - not the DEAN one. By the way, in another wiki page, on the biography of the actual DEAN Rusk - the 1960s US Secretary of State, there was a claim under "In popular culture" that he (or his name) inspires the name Red Skull in the comic. So if the anagram thoery is consdiered not sufficiently validated here, the biography of the historical Dean Rusk should be revised as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.253.11.18 (talk) 07:01, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

The 1st appearance of Schmidt[edit]

I really believe the first appearance of the Schmidt Red Skull is YOUNG ALLIES COMICS #1 not CAPTAIN AMERICA COMICS # 7. YAC#1 was published in summer of 1941, while CAC#7 was published in October of 1941.Giantdevilfish (talk) 21:16, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Merge Red Skull (Albert Malik)[edit]

-nomination/merge - the information on Albert Malik is a virtual reduplication of that already on the Red Skull page, which is fairly clear and consise, as is. Malik's signicance and notabilty dimishes without the greater context of the Red Skull to surround him. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 22:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC).

Merge Malik is a different character than the article being merged into, but he could just be added as just a footnote because as 66.109.248.114 said most of the information is duplicated. Normally I oppose merging characters that bear little relationship to each other, but I support this merge to get rid of the stub that is Malik's article. There's no way to expand the stub into a full article, so just merge it. -Freak104 (talk) 15:41, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Merge The communist Red Skull is as notable as the the Fred Davis Bucky and he doesn't have his own article, separate from the Bucky article. Stephen Day (talk) 23:21, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd just as soon separate all of the Malik information in this article and expand the other one. As is, this article is somewhat confusing due to the fact that there are three Skulls mentioned. There is no way we should have two equally relavent characters sharing one article. Does anyone know which Skull was involved with Captain America's death, by the way? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.192.181.59 (talk) 19:20, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Discussion closed with consensus to merge. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 21:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC).

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Created by[edit]

According to The Steranko History of Comics Jack Kirby's friend, Ed Herron wrote a few Captain America stories, and he created the Red Skull. (The Steranko History of Comics, p. 53) Vegas Bleeds Neon (talk) 17:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

DEAN Rusk cannot be an anagram of RED SKULL[edit]

You cannot twist the spelling of "Dean Rusk" in anyway to spell "Red Skull". So it is not an anagram of one another. Furthermore, if it is not sifficiently validated, it should be deleted, out of respect of the actual late Secretary of State Dean Rusk and his family, who probably would not be very pleased with having their relative cited as the inspiration of a comic book villain. I notice that similar entry about Dean Rusk and Red Skull in another wiki webpage on the real Dean Rusk's biographaphy has also been deled. 182.253.11.18 (talk) 08:49, 3 April 2012 (UTC) a real life diplomat who also likes comics

Article's format[edit]

Since the majority of the article is about the Schmidt character, and the minor characters Maxon and Malik are summarized in small paragraphs in the "Other Red Skulls" section, shouldn't the lead and infobox focus on only the Schmidt character? -Fandraltastic (talk) 22:38, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I agree. 129.33.19.254 (talk) 23:22, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Alright, I'm gonna go ahead and clean it up accordingly when I get some time in the next day or so, since there don't seem to be any objections. -Fandraltastic (talk) 02:59, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Mention "Johann Schmidt" in the lede?[edit]

The article is clearly about the Schmidt character rather than any of the lesser Red Skulls, including the first one, but should this distinction be clarified in the lede? The statement "The Red Skull [...] first appeared in Captain America Comics #7" is, in one sense, inaccurate. Hijiri 88 (やや) 11:04, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

First Appearance[edit]

This is wrong. Red Skull appeared before issue #7. He was definitely in #3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.170.255 (talk) 18:29, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

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