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Relationship between Regierungsbezirke and former Principalities etc.
I was wondering. is it my imagination, or is there a relationship between the Regierungsbezirk and the former Principalities, Baronies,Dutchies, etc.? CORNELIUSSEON 23:42, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Is it that clever to use the German plural form? Kindergarten has made it into the English language with a standard English plural: -s. Therefor (IMHO) the plural of Regierungsbezirk should be Regierungsbezirks. --32X 00:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- The plural of Kindergarten is Kindergärten. And the plural of Regierungsbezirk is Regierungsbezirke. -- 184.108.40.206 (talk) 22:33, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
IMHO using English plural forms of foreign words is a bit intellectually lazy - I prefer to show the respect to the people of the countries of origin to learn their plurals, and their pronunciation. We Americans can try to be a little more cosmopolitan than we tend to be because of our geographical isolation. Drbillellis 12:51, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
I would not say that they are "roughly equivalent to a province" in other nations. A province or state in most other Western nations is a second-tier level of government. These Regierungsbezirk look to be third-tier (i.e. below both federal and state government), and would make them more equivalent to counties in other nations. Germany counties, which are districts, are more the equivalent of towns/townships. Someone may want to correct this. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Actually, provinces are in some countries like Italy or Spain third-tier level of government. For instance, in Italy you have the national government, then the regions and within the regions provinces. The Regierungsbezirk is only an administrative division of the different states. They represent and operate for the different state government departments. For example, the president of a Regierungsbezirk is the executive prepresentative of the prime minister of the state. He/she is not elected by the people or by any parlament but only appointed by the government. In addition, the English wiki says about Landkreise which are under Regierungsbezirke: "The districts are at an intermediate level of administration between the Länder (German states) and the local / municipal levels (Gemeinden). They are not to be confused with the larger Regierungsbezirk. Their equivalent in other nations is the county or arrondissement. They correspond to level 3 administrative units or Local Administrative Units under the Nomenclature of Territorial Units for Statistics." Further, there are also structures esp. in rural areas that could be considered as townships, like Verwaltungsgemeinschaften etc. Don-M (talk) 14:32, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
- At present, Wikipedia translates both Kreis and Bezirk as district which I think should be changed. -- 220.127.116.11 (talk) 22:35, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Definition of the Regierungsbezirks
The problem is that this article assumes that Regierungsbezirke are an independent tier of government (beside federal and state level) - however this is not correct. Regierungsbezirk is a solely administrative segmentation of the state's territory.
Therefore they directly belong to the respective state government and the Bezirksregierung (the authority that oversees the Regierungsbezirk) is a immediate state authority, directly subordinate to the state government, and with rather administrative than governmental duties (a so called "Landesmittelbehörde" meaning intermediate state authority, whereas the superiour state authoritys are the state ministries).
One can say that the Bezirksregierung is the field office of the state government responsible for the respective administrative Bezirk (in public they actually call themselves this way). --18.104.22.168 (talk) 01:13, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
- This is not correct. Districts have an elected government of their own (although elections are held on the same day as state elections) and they are Gebietskörperschaften of their own. It is totally correct to regard them as an independent tier of government, even though the districts don't play an important role in politics because their government has only little power. -- 22.214.171.124 (talk) 22:31, 1 May 2012 (UTC)