Talk:Relative articulation

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Is there a way to signify "protruding" roundedness versus "compressed" roundedness? For the "compressed /w/", Im using [βˠ] as the close transcription. Is there a better way, so can keep the ‹w› letter for better visual recognition? Haldrik (talk) 07:05, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

AFAIK no, only a bunch of ad hoc remedies like yours. — kwami (talk) 08:09, 16 March 2011 (UTC)


Should this sentence be in the article? "In General American English, the /t/ in the word eighth is farther front than normal, due to assimilation with the interdental consonant /θ/, and may be transcribed as [eɪt̟θ]." I ask because I'm a speaker of General American English, living in an urban area in the middle-Atlantic United States, and I've never noticed anyone having a /t/ in "eighth". I see that Merriam Webster provides pronunciations both with and without, but I'm looking for verification. I figure that if it was there in some people's speech, I might have noticed it at least since the time I noticed that some people do have a /ð/ in "clothes". —Largo Plazo (talk) 19:49, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Raising/lowering chart may be confusing and/or inaccurate[edit]

…As it seems to conflate phonological issues (the sonority scale) with phonetical ones (pure raising/lowering). (Not to mention that it is entirely unsourced.) Particularly suspect are the claims that semivowels [j] would be less constricted than high vowels like [i] (and not simply non-syllabic), and that flaps are less constricted than stops (and not simply shorter). --Trɔpʏliʊmblah 17:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC)